ESC meeting minutes: 2024-08-22

Stephan Bergmann stephan.bergmann at allotropia.de
Thu Aug 22 14:37:46 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Thorsten, Michael W., Olivier, Stephan, Ilmari, Cloph, Hossein, 
Heiko, Caolan,
       Regina, Michael S., Xisco

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + perf.libreoffice.org: switch the default to the new data (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.0 final released today
   + 24.8.1 rc1 this week, probably tomorrow during the day
   + 24.2.6 rc2 next week
   + OK to enable MAR updater by default for 24.8.1? (Stephan)
     - OK, test runs done (Cloph)
     - come up with a nice web page to show after updating (Cloph)
     - minor issue: if you do a multi-step update you might get
       multiple web pages opening in the browser
     - workaround: remove the url from the N-1 .. etc MAR files, so users
       will always only see the last patch update URL (Thorsten)
     - possible to role updates gradually, only to few people first? 
(Hossein)
       - to find possible issues, avoid heavy load
       - not easy, but testing side for QA before update (Cloph)
       - delay switching MAR updater notification live for a few days 
(Cloph)
       - assume our users & QA community would notice any catastrophic 
issues quickly
         (Thorsten)
     - 24.2.5 -> 24.2.6 -> 24.2.7 -> 24.8.3 (or 4) planned updating 
scheme (Cloph)
     - already mention latest 24.8 on page shown after incremental 
upate? (Cloph)
    AI: enable MAR updater by default (Stephan)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Updates and fixes (Pierre F, D. Maddern, ohallot, A. Romedenne)
        + New Help pages on Sidebar (ohallot)
           + Obsolete HID's
             + not critical, but helpful to remove them (easy hack?)
        + Online Help pages updated for 24.8
     + Guides
        + Getting Started 24.8 released with LO24.8
        + Work on Calc Guide

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         237(237) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     24(1)     72(14)   106(4)     245(8)
          commented     43(7)    133(36)   269(6)     905(36)
           resolved      9(1)     39(6)     66(0)     155(3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 88 changes in 1 month, and 124 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 62 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 
year
           Olivier Hallot made 58 changes in 1 month, and 308 changes in 
1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 27 changes in 1 month, and 152 
changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 102 
changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 8 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 
1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 
year
           Henschel, Regina made 6 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 
1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 
1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         233(233) (topicUI) bugs open, 29(29) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      5(-1)      9(1)      10(1)       18(1)
          commented     34(-17)   132(-20)   412(-12)   1747(-15)
            removed      0(0)       0(0)       2(0)       10(0)
           resolved      1(-5)     24(-9)     73(-4)     281(-7)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Eyal Rozenberg made 56 changes in 1 month, and 196 changes in 
1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 56 changes in 1 month, and 954 changes in 1 
year
           Stéphane Guillou made 26 changes in 1 month, and 587 changes 
in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 23 changes in 1 month, and 338 
changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 144 
changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 9 changes in 1 month, and 70 changes in 1 year
           steve made 8 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 6 changes in 1 month, and 145 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 6 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 
year
           kolAflash made 6 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 153759] EDITING: Mark column -> Ctrl+C -> right-click -> 
Insert Columns
            Before -> Ctrl+V -> wrong reference despite $
     + [Bug 161532] Selection in formula view is not reflected in the 
source view when
            visual editing is active
     + [Bug 161588] Autoinput suggestions cannot be rejected (e.g. with Esc)
     + [Bug 162501] Draw - no useful scaling factors for English units
     + [Bug 155712] Footnote numbering should be page-style-specific

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 16(+0) import failure, 13(+0) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
       - missing a week's update
     + 542 (down from peak of 3486) coverity issues
     + 4 ossfuzz issues
       - 1 3rd party crash, 3 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 24.2.2.2    20137(+362)
     + 24.2.3.2    18072(+546)
     + 24.2.4.2    13818(+698)
     + 24.2.5.2    10808(+2806)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + New EasyHack
    tdf#162563 Remove remaining Java applet code and references
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162563
    - Java applet API removed in 2021
  + New blog post on dev blog about crashes
    Crash fix part 5: crash report tool
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=930&preview=1&_ppp=c9694be057
    + Previous parts
      1) segfault 2) abort 3) testing crashes 4) assertion failure

           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      93(12)     181(11)      187(14)      187(14)
                reviews     366(-90)   1388(-140)   3740(-92)   13194(-16)
                 merged     252(30)    1049(-57)    3486(19)    13019(74)
              abandoned      17(0)       89(0)       240(10)      780(3)
            own commits     184(7)      752(-44)    2371(17)     9516(53)
         review commits      59(13)     238(12)      747(-16)    3131(34)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      64(12)     114(3)      118(4)      118(4)
                reviews     872(114)   2952(-70)   8108(92)   29892(-100)
                 merged      41(17)     121(23)     298(16)    1544(29)
              abandoned       4(-5)      39(-1)      89(-4)     595(-150)
            own commits      25(4)      111(5)      330(-8)    1276(20)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 328(328)
        total 411(411)   assigned 23(23)   open 353(353)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 34 patches in 1 month, and 66 patches in 1 year
             made 13 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 11 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 
year
           Ritobroto Mukherjee made 5 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches 
in 1 year
           Weblate made 4 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 4 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 4 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 
1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 2 patches in 1 month, and 27 patches in 1 year
           Vladislav Tarakanov made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches 
in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 2 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Thorsten Behrens made 154 review comments in 1 month, and 718 
in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 124 review comments in 1 month, 
and 754 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 1452 
in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 1176 in 
1 year
           Michael Stahl made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 838 in 
1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 940 in 
1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 
498 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 500 in 
1 year
           Hossein made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 334 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 284 in 1 
year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         [WIP] Create new data structure for Primitive2DContainer ( Noel 
Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/135319
         Get at least some information out of coredumpctl ( Noel Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/163945
         WIP JsonWriterStruct ( Noel Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/164293
         tdf#45904: Move _XTextSection Java test to C++ ( Seturaj Matroja )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/164641
         loplugins:dllprivate also check for SAL_DLLPUBLIC_RTTI ( Noel 
Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/164762
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged 
patch, since last report:
           Deepanshu Sharma 129deepanshusharma at gmail.com
           Tzu-Hsuan Huang tzhsn.huang at gmail.com

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + 26 August is the deadline for final code submissions in 
non-extended projects
   + various projects with extensions
   + possible to change extension? (Hossein)
     - yes, if deadline not yet started, but better do ASAP (Ilmari)
   + Ilmari available to brainstorm ideas if students want to continue 
with LO dev
     after GSoC

* Minimum display resolution (Ilmari)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161240#c12
   + Should we bump it to WXGA 16:10, 1280x800?
   + inconsistent data, wiki vs. system req. website
   + also scaling plays a role (Hossein)
     + problems with 2x, 3x, .. scaling
   + not a hard requirement (Cloph)
     - minor UX hassle with options dialog on too small display
   + current value agreed a couple years ago, due to main menu size (Heiko)
   + design team wants to continue with slightly smaller values, for 
exisiting uses
     (Heiko)
   + harmonize website content with design materials (Ilmari)
   + better just state minimum vertical requirements, not aspect ratio 
(Cloph)
   + or just state "best experience with 1280 or more" or similar (Cloph)
     + height is also an issue sometimes (Heiko)

* LiboCon (Cloph)
   + CfP is open: 
https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp
     + 2024-08-31 11:52 (UTC) is the deadline
   + Call re development workshop, working on it (Hossein)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 15 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 162 ok: 155 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.47% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 25) median_ok:   9 ( 18)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 162 ok: 156 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.85% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 14)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 162 ok: 154 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.09% 
mean_ok:  13 ( 25) median_ok:   9 ( 16)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 162 ok: 156 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.85% 
mean_ok:  10 ( 21) median_ok:   7 ( 12)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 329 ok: 273 ko:  48 fail ratio: 14.59% 
mean_ok:  52 ( 64) median_ok:  50 ( 57)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 390 ok: 319 ko:  54 fail ratio: 13.85% 
mean_ok:  26 ( 34) median_ok:  20 ( 24)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 334 ok: 299 ko:  22 fail ratio: 6.59% 
mean_ok:  57 ( 62) median_ok:  47 ( 48)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 335 ok: 276 ko:  45 fail ratio: 13.43% 
mean_ok:  69 ( 83) median_ok:  64 ( 66)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 411 ok: 242 ko: 142 fail ratio: 34.55% 
mean_ok: 129 (131) median_ok: 108 (108)
gerrit_master              jobs:  37 ok:  24 ko:   7 fail ratio: 18.92% 
mean_ok:  94 ( 96) median_ok:  76 ( 76)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 372 ok: 218 ko: 133 fail ratio: 35.75% 
mean_ok: 129 (132) median_ok: 113 (114)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       4 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 JunitTest_sd_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering 
gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      18 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
    + uneventful

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
    + A11y update (Michael W)
       + winaccessibility:
           + fix for tdf#91739 "nvda can not read documents from top to 
bottom."
           + implement IAccessible2_2 interface
           + misc cleanups etc.
        + Qt: mismatch between window title and a11y name (breaks 
Accerciser's
          highlighting feature) (QTBUG-127563,...)
    + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
       + tdf#141466: sw: Asian Phonetic Guide dialog produces incorrect 
base text
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141466
          + Fixed
       + tdf#153966: vcl: RTL characters 'fidget' while typing
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153966
          + Fixed
       + tdf#151748: editeng does not check whether there is enough room 
for kashida
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151748
          + In progress
     + CairoSDPR from Armin - about to land in a bit, with cairo-native 
rendering
       of alpha, gradients etc in experimental mode - should speed-up 
graphics-heavy
       content rendering by several orders of magnitude (Linux-only 
currently)
     + Mike solved a rendering issue depending on resolution on Windows, 
that hit one
       bot (Cloph)

* QA update (Xisco)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1229 (-16)
         + enhancements: 283  (-6)
         + needsUXEval: 9 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+1)
         + documentation:  5 (-1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + FILEOPEN PPTX: image completely disappears, other quite off 
(zoomed in?)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161724
             + Attila ?

         + Page layout reflow after pressing delete causes hang 
(involving tables)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162507
             + Miklos ?


* QA stats
     + 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +74  +5 (-93) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                15
        Justin L                11
        QA Administrators       10
        Mike Kaganski           6
        Dieter                  5
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Dione Maddern           4
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Michael Weghorn         3
        Andreas Heinisch        2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Mike Kaganski           5
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        FishBoneEK              3
        Urmas                   3
        Lars Jødal              2
        Regina Henschel         2
        fpy                     2
        Dieter                  1
        Heiko Tietze            1
        Laurent Balland         1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Justin Luth             10
        Kaganski, Mike          5
        Dione Maddern           4
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
                                2
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Bogaboga Man            1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      23
        Raal                    12
        Dieter                  7
        Heiko Tietze            7
        m.a.riosv               3
                                2
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Németh, László          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     4


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     5
         Raal                   5
         Steve271               1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1202(-6) bugs open of 13545(+6) total 24(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         m.a.riosv              2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Telesto                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 11(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 2(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 6(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 383(-4)
      Calc                     - 241(+1)
      Impress                  - 127(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 52(+0)
      Draw                     - 49(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 44(-1)
      Crashes                  - 43(-3)
      Base                     - 39(+0)
      UI                       - 37(+0)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 26(+0)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 20(+0)
      filters and storage      - 20(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 10(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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