ESC meeting minutes: 2024-02-22
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Feb 22 15:33:29 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Hossein, Oliver, Stephan, Xisco, Caolan, Cloph, Eike, Gokay, Heiko, Ilmari, Michael S, Michael W, Stephan, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
+ atticize gnu-make-lo.git, finish this (Thorsten)
* Pending Action Items:
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6.5 announced as final today
+ 7.6: 7.6.6 RC1 in 2 weeks
+ 24.2.1: RC2 this week
+ app store versions:
+ 7.6.5 will be published as an update soon
* Revert Shortcut modifications in German UI (Xisco)
- 7 commits: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159743#c3
- Bring compatibility with MSO. Gökay Şatır
- Some german speaking users already complaining. 4 reports so far.
- First approach: change Search shortcut: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163441
- Revert proposal: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163484
+ nothing against these changes, but (Xisco)
+ 7 commits, goal is to be compatible with MSO
+ 24.2 is out, German speaking users complain about the change
+ e.g. the search shortcut is used a lot and is changed
+ but there were complaints about others as well
+ proposal: revert in 24.2 to have time to discuss it for 24.8
+ not feeling comfortable with pushing the button before reaching agreement
+ wanted to attract people from MSO side to feel comfortable in LO as well (Gokay)
+ of course the existing LO user's point of view is also reasonable
+ didn't expect a pushback
+ can live with a revert and then hope to put some of this back over time step by step?
+ Stuart's comment (Ilmari)
+ see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159743#c9
+ idea would be to have an opt-in checkbox to have MSO-compatible defaults
+ and leave the actual default unchanged
+ maybe going this way is needed (Gokay)
+ the commit message didn't really specify what was research was done (Cloph)
+ tried to research this, have a German MSO + German keyboard (Gokay)
+ hoped to be a general change, but the focus is on MSO
+ example with the navigator (Heiko)
+ F5 to open it, then Ctrl-F opens it
+ believe F5 needs to stay at the navigator
+ local shortcuts area ideally discussed by the local community
+ also the help pages need updating (Cloph)
=> go ahead with the revert for now (all)
+ hope to find a way that works for everyone in the future (Xisco)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontent2
+ Help pages no Calc XMATCH and XLOOKUP (ohallot)
+ Scriptforge updates (A. Romedenne)
+ Typos (A. Gelmini)
+ Review of terminolgy changes (7.6 & 24.2) reflected in Help
+ Guides
+ Work in progress.
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
285(285) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 8(-1) 22(0) 44(2) 242(-7)
commented 6(-14) 51(-6) 157(-2) 904(-32)
resolved 0(-3) 5(0) 14(-1) 116(-8)
+ top 10 contributors:
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 42 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 19 changes in 1 month, and 327 changes in 1 year
Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 10 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 64 changes in 1 year
Dan Dascalescu made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 5 changes in 1 month, and 88 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
Juan José González made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
Kelemen, Gabor made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
250(250) (topicUI) bugs open, 33(33) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 5(3) 5(0) 7(-2) 20(-1)
commented 90(64) 214(39) 530(12) 2077(31)
removed 0(0) 0(0) 2(0) 14(1)
resolved 8(4) 37(0) 82(5) 319(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 131 changes in 1 month, and 1257 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 48 changes in 1 month, and 281 changes in 1 year
Ady made 39 changes in 1 month, and 144 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 34 changes in 1 month, and 601 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 17 changes in 1 month, and 93 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 195 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 11 changes in 1 month, and 177 changes in 1 year
Timur made 11 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
Bob Harvey made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
Németh, László made 9 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 159738] CALC UI: Menu item "View headers" in menu "View" named wrong
+ [Bug 159748] UI: Cell protection dialog reference menu that don't exist
+ [Bug 159543] Cannot resize graphical objects that overlap header/footer
+ [Bug 159737] Lowercase "a" and uppercase "A" wrongly shows as one "a" in
Autofilter dropdown
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 8(+3) import failure, 5(+2) export failures
- think the last ItemSet problems are now sorted out, will see in the next run
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
+ 2 coverity issues
+ 5 ossfuzz issues
- 1 crash, expected fix committed
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.2.1 47221(+1551)
+ 7.6.3.2 7903(+403)
+ 7.6.4.1 31005(+3359)
+ 24.2.0.3 5145(+2030)
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Reviewed submissions from the newcomers
+ Finalized and published a blog post for a difficultyInteresting EasyHack
Make Impress master slides copyable – difficulty interesting EasyHack
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/02/22/make-impress-master-slides-copyable-difficulty-interesting-easyhack/
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 70(-13) 139(1) 139(-2) 139(-2)
reviews 422(8) 1514(20) 3514(-20) 11988(34)
merged 295(34) 1168(24) 3242(47) 12487(24)
abandoned 10(-2) 45(-7) 188(-28) 650(-4)
own commits 167(18) 708(-12) 2263(-34) 9559(-93)
review commits 98(40) 289(18) 860(50) 3090(29)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 19(-21) 247(-20) 247(-27) 248(-27)
reviews 798(-4) 2880(16) 7720(-32) 30186(-194)
merged 38(16) 102(13) 348(15) 2023(-69)
abandoned 11(7) 45(6) 132(-16) 535(4)
own commits 49(23) 138(16) 332(39) 1058(28)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 325(325)
total 411(411) assigned 26(26) open 352(352)
+ top 10 contributors:
Kurt Nordback made 20 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 14 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 85 patches in 1 year
Luv Sharma made 6 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
Eli Schwartz made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Akshay Warrier made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
Hubert Figuière made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
vivek javiya made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Devansh Varshney made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Caolán McNamara made 188 review comments in 1 month, and 1170 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 968 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 1036 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 630 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 618 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 458 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 980 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 356 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 782 in 1 year
Taichi Haradaguchi made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 122 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
Simplify long if statements ( Hannah Meeks )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/155868
tdf#156776 Base Table Design Save As For Dummies... ( Pierre Vacher )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/155950
Ensure BarOfPie has ScaleData::ShiftedCategoryPosition == false ( Kurt Nordback )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/156367
Restructuring to support reasonably code-efficient design for of-pie charts ( Kurt Nordback )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/156460
Some rejiggering of of-pie code, plus implementing subpie chart ( Kurt Nordback )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/157302
vcl: const parameters of local functions in outdev/text.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159656
vcl: move textlineinfo.hxx to inc/text and move classes to vcl::text namespace ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159971
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Kevin Ottens
* Outreachy (Ilmari)
+ find in the sidebar for Writer -- patch is pending review
+ several patches for the qt welding project
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/organizations/libreoffice
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2024
+ till March 18: Potential participants discuss application ideas
* Deprecating Windows 7 and 8/8.1? (Ilmari)
* Firefox 115 ESR is the last release supporting anything older than Windows 10
+ EOL of that is September 2024, FWIW (Miklos)
* Chrome 110 (released a year ago) requires Windows 10
* Market share looks like 5% of Windows.
* What does "deprecating" mean? (Hossein)
+ deprecating means: announcement of the intention (Ilmari)
* Amend wording to make clear that OS versions no longer supported by the OS Vendor are only compatible on a best-effort basis, no explicit testing is done, and while we don't intentionally break functionality some things might not work without us realizing (Cloph)
* If the release notes say so, the website will also need updating (Stephane)
+ that can be done, but it comes in 2025
AI: add this to the 24.8 release notes (Ilmari)
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 18 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 207 ok: 195 ko: 4 fail ratio: 1.93% mean_ok: 9 ( 21) median_ok: 7 ( 17)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 207 ok: 201 ko: 2 fail ratio: 0.97% mean_ok: 9 ( 20) median_ok: 7 ( 14)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 206 ok: 197 ko: 3 fail ratio: 1.46% mean_ok: 8 ( 20) median_ok: 7 ( 15)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 207 ok: 199 ko: 3 fail ratio: 1.45% mean_ok: 10 ( 21) median_ok: 7 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 428 ok: 262 ko: 146 fail ratio: 34.11% mean_ok: 39 ( 45) median_ok: 32 ( 42)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 488 ok: 407 ko: 54 fail ratio: 11.07% mean_ok: 17 ( 26) median_ok: 15 ( 22)
gerrit_mac jobs: 420 ok: 316 ko: 85 fail ratio: 20.24% mean_ok: 51 ( 52) median_ok: 48 ( 48)
gerrit_windows jobs: 438 ok: 293 ko: 118 fail ratio: 26.94% mean_ok: 61 ( 87) median_ok: 47 ( 72)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 521 ok: 233 ko: 235 fail ratio: 45.11% mean_ok: 107 (107) median_ok: 87 ( 88)
gerrit_master jobs: 58 ok: 28 ko: 27 fail ratio: 46.55% mean_ok: 76 ( 76) median_ok: 69 ( 69)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 460 ok: 206 ko: 204 fail ratio: 44.35% mean_ok: 108 (110) median_ok: 90 ( 91)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240222.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_filters_test3 gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2 gerrit_windows
3 UITest_writer_tests7 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_sc_filters_test gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 CppunitTest_toolkit_a11y gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 JunitTest_sw_complex gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 UITest_writer_tests8 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 CppunitTest_sw_a11y gerrit_windows
5 CppunitTest_test_a11y gerrit_windows
10 CppunitTest_sw_pdf_test gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
+ this week was OK in terms of Windows builds (Cloph)
+ CppunitTest_sw_pdf_test might be a dependency issue, but didn't look closely
+ there is also a long change chain in the queue (Cloph)
+ possibly this chain produced the pdf failures
+ CppunitTest_test_a11y failures, was that a bot related failure or not? (Michael W)
+ possibly was an attempt to just keep the build more stable, probably not bot related (Cloph)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
* gtk4: Implement new GtkAccessibleTextInterface, related Gtk upstream fixes
* Accerciser: submitted MR to make "Select object under mouse pointer" work for
Gtk 4 apps on X11, related Gtk fixes
+ JJ's work on crash report website (Stéphane)
+ repo is now on gerrit, under infra, open for contributions
* COOL Days 2024 (Miklos)
+ https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cool-days-2024/ 8th -> 10th April
+ contributors can submit 5 mins talk proposals at https://eventyay.com/e/0512424d/cfs
+ LibreOffice Technology hackfest as part of it
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1120 (-7)
+ enhancements: 265 (+4)
+ needsUXEval: 2 (-3)
+ haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 45 (+0)
+ documentation: 10 (+1)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (-1)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
+ Crash at undo of RTF Paste
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159385
+ bisected to Tomaz
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Libreoffice unusable with different scale factors used for different screens in multimonitor setup (on kf5/qt5/qt6 vcl + wayland)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141578
+ not tagged as a regression
+ LibreOffice Calc ODS files saved with passwords under 7.6.4 (X86_64) cannot be opened in 24.2.0.3 (X86_64) (Windows 7)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159512
+ Fixed. Thanks to M. Stahl
+ Manual line break forces automatic Wrap Text
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159690
+ bisected to Paris
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+97 +6 (-88) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 11
Buovjaga 9
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
Heiko Tietze 4
Julien Nabet 4
Laurent Balland 4
Michael Stahl (allotropia) 4
Mike Kaganski 3
V Stuart Foote 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
lvm 4
Adalbert Hanßen 3
Oliver Specht (CIB) 3
Olivier Hallot 3
Aron Budea 2
Buovjaga 2
Mukul Gupta 2
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2
Telesto 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Kelemen, Gabor 5
Balland-Poirier, Laurent 4
Kaganski, Mike 3
Michael Stahl 3
Balazs Varga 1
Baole Fang 1
Caolán McNamara 1
Grandin, Noel 1
Henschel, Regina 1
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 20
Stéphane Guillou 11
m.a.riosv 5
*UNKNOWN* 4
Aron Budea 3
Heiko Tietze 3
Kaganski, Mike 3
Raal 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Ady 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Aron Budea 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Kevin Suo 2
Justin Luth 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Telesto 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 5
Aron Budea 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Bogdan B 1
Justin Luth 1
Telesto 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1258(+1) bugs open of 13200(+6) total 22(+0) high prio.
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Ady 1
Bogdan B 1
Gerald Pfeifer 1
Justin Luth 1
Raal 1
Nabet, Julien 1
Telesto 1
Vernon, Stuart Foote 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 15(+1)
LibreOffice - 2(+0)
Calc - 1(-1)
Impress - 1(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 1(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 16(+0)
Linux - 5(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 1(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 455(+0)
Calc - 230(-1)
Impress - 128(-2)
LibreOffice - 56(+2)
Crashes - 52(+0)
Draw - 50(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
Base - 38(+0)
Borders - 35(+0)
UI - 35(-1)
Writer: perf - 34(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 26(+0)
Chart - 23(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
filters and storage - 23(+2)
BASIC - 19(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 16(+0)
graphics stack - 11(+0)
Formula Editor - 7(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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