Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-17

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, Cor, Hossein, John, Heiko
Comments: Eike, Mike, Stephané

Tickets/Topics

  * Styles deck: actually hide hidden leaf styles in Hierarchical view
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158791
    + only do the greyed-out thing when the style has children but
      hide the style completely when it’s a leaf
    + alternatively clean-up the styles list
    + some styles are used for wizards, high levels could be hidden,
      but in the end not much benefit (Cor, Heiko)
    + wouldn't hide conditionally (Heiko)
    + users might be not aware of hidden styles (Cor)
    + Stylist has plenty of filters to adjust the view (Heiko)
    + don't make it even more harder to use (Hossein)
    => WF

  * Let users select multiple toolbars at once to view or hide
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158880
    + integrate the toolbars list in the "User Interface" dialog (Heiko)
    + View > Toolbars is familiar to most users; advanced prototype
      could be Mozilla's (eg Firefox) edit mode (Hossein)
    + agree if the dialog would be additional to the menu, otherwise
      against (Cor)
    + accelerator keys are a quick way to access the menu items (Cor)
    + integrating into a dialog might be beneficial, a bit unclear
      if toolbars belong to the User Interface dialog (John)
    => copy the toolbar options to the UI dialog

  * Conditional Formatting gets overwritten
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158724
    + allow fine-tuning of protection with "[ ] Edit values" and
      "[ ] Format cells" so one can protect the sheet more
      specifically (Heiko)
    + unclear option, difficult to implement; rather add an extra
      function that blocks formatting independently from protection (Eike)
    + another idea: allow customization of paste per document so paste
      behaves like paste special > values only, or else (Heiko)
    + Excel shows a small widget to give a clue on alternative options,
      but behaves like LibreOffice (Hossein)
    + Warn (with option to not show again) if formatting is being
      overwritten (Cor)
    => comment

  * "Macros disabled" show a button "Show macros" which does not
     make sense
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158600
     + reasonable for "High"+ security (Mike)
     + keep the ability to quickly take a peek in the macro; and rather add
       some button [Execute anyway] (Heiko)
     + most users don't understand Basic and allowing the see/edit lowers the
       security (Hossein)
     + keep the Show Macro button, ie. WF (Cor)
     + not a big deal to have a shortcut to see/edit the button (John)
     + users may miss an action if the infobar does not provide
       any button (Hossein)
     => comment, in favor of WF

  * text file format dialogue on save -- ODF file format?
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158624
    + some benefit in using the term that users will be more familiar with,
      eg "Save as ODF" for Writer or "Save as ODS" for Calc (Stephané)
    + all are ODF anyway and most users are not familiar with
      file extensions either (Heiko)
    + change sounds good to me (John, Hossein, Sahil)
    + might have been changed a while again, will check (Hossein)
    + could be better to add the extension in the text like "This document
      may ... file format “Rich Text (*.rtf)”. Use the default ODF file format
      (*.odt) to be sure that the document is saved correctly."; with *.odt/
      *.ods/*.odp etc. depending on the module (Hossein)
    => ask dev mentor to make it an easyhack
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