ESC meeting minutes: 2024-01-18

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 18 15:44:56 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Heiko, Xisco, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Eike, Ilmari, Stephan, Hossein, Olivier, Michael S, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
     + IRC bot notification for the ESC call (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.5 RC1 in 2 weeks
       + plan to tag on Tuesday
     + 24.2: RC 3 next week
       + fixed the packaging of Noto fonts (Cloph)
         + does it affect the binary size? (Heiko)
         + yes, but this was there before already (Cloph)
       + libreoffice-24-2-0 branch, needs +2 reviews
       + late features:
         + MAR updates (Stephan)
         + done from Stephan's side
         + regarding generating the updates:
           + more details were mailed on Tue
           + got it (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
         + Improvements in XHP Help editor (JJ Gonzales)
         + https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/xhpeditor/index.php
     + Helpcontents2
         + Review of Spotlight Help pages (ohallot)
         + ScriptForge Help pages (A. Romedenne, R. Lima)
         + Updates and fixes (Kira Tubo, Dione Maddern)
     + Guides
         + Update in progress
             + Getting Started 7.6 being prepared (R. Thornton, V. Slavitskaya, ohallot)
             + Base Guide ( S. Fanning)
             + Crafting Sanity check scripts for guides. ( BAntonioF)
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         274(274) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     4(1)     12(0)      36(1)     247(-6)
          commented     6(-17)   53(-16)   159(0)     957(-17)
           resolved     1(-1)     7(-1)     15(-1)    130(-5)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Nabet, Julien made 14 changes in 1 month, and 42 changes in 1 year
           Faisal made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 5 changes in 1 month, and 295 changes in 1 year
           libretist made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Eivind Samseth made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 3 changes in 1 month, and 88 changes in 1 year
           steve made 3 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Robert Großkopf made 3 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 3 changes in 1 month, and 314 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         250(250) (topicUI) bugs open, 66(66) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      6(-6)    24(-4)     36(0)       48(0)
          commented     85(24)   212(-30)   630(-2)    2235(-27)
            removed      0(0)      1(0)       3(0)       14(0)
           resolved      4(0)     16(-5)     67(-7)     319(-6)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 125 changes in 1 month, and 1324 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 91 changes in 1 month, and 645 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 22 changes in 1 month, and 210 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 206 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 15 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 13 changes in 1 month, and 209 changes in 1 year
           Jim Raykowski made 10 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
           Samuel Mehrbrodt made 10 changes in 1 month, and 21 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 9 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 159230] Shortcuts are not available for Find and replace dialog in Mac
     + [Bug 159180] Add support for refined-doughnut charts
     + [Bug 159169] Wrong translation for German
     + [Bug 159145] allow changing width of comment column by making the
            right border draggable
  -> + [Bug 159137] Add "previous/next note" functionality to cross-references
            (conditional mix of "referenced text" and "above/below")
       + above/below is already there, suggesting a new type here that can be user-defined
       + no opinion / objection (Michael S)
       + fontwork: want to talk with Heiko (Olivier)
         + looking forward to that (Heiko)

     + Blog post "Comments in Sidebar" published at https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/01/12/comments-in-sidebar/

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 27(+23) import failure, 22(+22) export failures
       - new crashes all ~all one from commit which is fixed
       - the other new is 'BufferedDecompositionPrimitive2D::setBuffered2DDecomposition'
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 37 coverity issues
     + 4 ossfuzz issues
       - 3 Timeouts, 1 OOM

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.5.8.2    4398(+380)
     + 7.5.9.2    2660(+820)
     + 7.6.2.1    38821(+1684)
     + 7.6.3.2    5393(+538)
     + 7.6.4.1    13084(+3219)

     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20SwUndoId%20lcl_GetSwUndoId(const%20class%20SwFrameFormat%20*)

     - regression in 7.6

     - Maybe related 6fab79859ec97a9153e033fe00fd01e4e46620ce "Revert "Revert "introduce sw::SpzFrameFormat ...""


   + links to source code in chashreports? (Miklos)
     e.g. here: https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/crash_details/61603e89-05c3-4e86-9fec-de6e063913f1
     + yes, this used to work (Xisco)
AI: try to restore this (Cloph)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Reviewed submissions from the newcomers
   + New EasyHack
     tdf#158624 - text file format dialogue on save -- ODF file format?
     https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158624
   + Calls with mentees for Java -> Python porting
   + GSoC idea to add cross platform .NET binding for LibreOffice SDK
     + will clarify the mentors there (Hossein)
       https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Cross_Platform_.NET_Binding

           committer...   1 week    1 month    3 months    12 months
                   open      71(3)     129(-2)    130(-4)      130(-4)
                reviews     478(80)   1322(6)    3228(102)   11726(-8)
                 merged     302(46)   1091(1)    3167(56)    12332(-103)
              abandoned      14(-1)     61(-1)    213(-9)      654(0)
            own commits     207(33)    765(38)   2541(88)     9789(22)
         review commits      99(18)    309(25)    792(51)     2990(47)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      43(-4)     281(-25)    302(-4)      303(-4)
                reviews     882(126)   2854(-46)   7964(162)   30564(12)
                 merged      28(11)     114(9)      434(34)     2341(72)
              abandoned       8(-8)      50(-3)     123(-1)      535(5)
            own commits      36(16)     130(5)      244(-20)     989(-48)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 318(318)
        total 405(405)   assigned 21(21)   open 353(353)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Stéphane Guillou made 15 patches in 1 month, and 54 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 15 patches in 1 month, and 73 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 9 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 7 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Juan José González made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Matt K made 6 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 5 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           Luv Sharma made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Sophia Schroeder made 4 patches in 1 month, and 50 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 120 review comments in 1 month, and 968 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 976 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 596 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 806 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1090 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 584 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 426 in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 328 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 308 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 436 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#146487 Don't show generic diagram title when there is an empty title given ( Samuel Mehrbrodt )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/155681
         Makefile: fix invocation of the value function ( Dan Horák )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/156942
         SwNavigator: Improve frame content ordering ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158604
         tdf#139633 related: SdNavigator: Don't allow object rename ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159194
         vcl: rearrange Library_vcl.mk ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159323
         vcl: migrate ImplGlyphFallbackLayout() as local func in TextLayoutBuilder.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159324
         Accept new value when hitting Return key ( Samuel Mehrbrodt )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159368
         tdf#158185: fix Excel's Range.AutoFilter wildcard recognition ( Mike Kaganski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159395
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Méven Car (Collabora)

* Outreachy (Ilmari)
   + work is ongoing & is on track.

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     * Organisation applications open 22 Jan
     * We need more ideas in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
     * 90 hour ideas are possible, but not mandatory to offer
     * See also, if you would like to adopt an orphaned idea: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas_without_a_mentor
     * Thorsten proposed projects for Markdown and reStructuredText import/export support
       * Md: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94978
         * https://github.com/mity/md4c
         * https://github.com/igormironchik/md4qt (can use ICU)
       * Rst: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70975
         * Unable to locate maintained C/C++ libs
     + interested in mentoring this one (Thorsten, Hossein)
     + what kind of filter would be? (Miklos)
       + internal/UNO/DLP?
       + initial idea would be import + DLP (Thorsten)
         + like the idea (Miklos)
       + would implement this in Python (Hossein)
         + probably something to discuss offline (Thorsten)
         + and developing the proposal is also a task for the student
     + would an extension qualify as a GSoC project? (Hossein)
       + no requirement to have the result in core.git as per the GSoC rules (Thorsten)
       + but if we want to maintain this, good to have it in core.git

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 13 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 162 ok: 157 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.47% mean_ok:   8 ( 11) median_ok:   6 (  8)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 165 ok: 161 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.82% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   6 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 163 ok: 157 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.07% mean_ok:   9 ( 11) median_ok:   6 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 165 ok: 161 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.82% mean_ok:   8 ( 11) median_ok:   6 (  8)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 331 ok: 286 ko:  41 fail ratio: 12.39% mean_ok:  35 ( 37) median_ok:  34 ( 36)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 381 ok: 321 ko:  49 fail ratio: 12.86% mean_ok:  18 ( 20) median_ok:  14 ( 15)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 341 ok: 311 ko:  23 fail ratio: 6.74% mean_ok:  47 ( 47) median_ok:  42 ( 43)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 669 ok: 271 ko: 386 fail ratio: 57.70% mean_ok:  65 ( 91) median_ok:  63 ( 68)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 413 ok: 242 ko: 148 fail ratio: 35.84% mean_ok: 131 (131) median_ok: 100 (100)
gerrit_master              jobs:  35 ok:  25 ko:   7 fail ratio: 20.00% mean_ok: 110 (110) median_ok:  84 ( 84)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 377 ok: 217 ko: 140 fail ratio: 37.14% mean_ok: 133 (133) median_ok: 100 (100)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240118.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17                gerrit_mac
       5 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
       5 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
       7 CppunitTest_sc_tiledrendering                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sd_import_tests_skia                gerrit_mac
      16 CppunitTest_test_a11y                gerrit_windows
      23 firebird likes to break the build…                gerrit_windows
      + Windows builds were still in big trouble (Cloph)
        + softened for the regular CI builds, but it was just a retry
        + Xisco reverted the update for now.

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
         + a11y-related crash fixes by Patrick Luby and Julien Nabet (tdf#159089,
           tdf#159213)
         + working on tdf#135236, support for reporting spelling errors for editengine
           via text attribute on a11y layer, some related fixes
     + bibisect builds vs Python (Stephan)
       + see https://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org/msg334213.html
       + claims the instset is now missing the bundled python
AI:      + will look at this (Xisco)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1106 (+46)
         + enhancements: 251  (+1)
         + needsUXEval: 17 (-3)
         + haveBackTrace: 11 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 41 (+2)
         + documentation:  6 (+2)
         + android:  0 (-1)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Calc,API:queryContentCells(23) returns wrong results outside Used Area
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158918
             + bisected to Lubos
             + INITIALCOLCOUNT=1 related issue

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +138  -38 (-90) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Mike Kaganski           6
        QA Administrators       6
        Rafael Lima             6
        Buovjaga                5
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
        Matt K                  4
        Telesto                 4
        Tibor Nagy              4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 10
        Telesto                 7
        Xisco Faulí             5
        Justin L                4
        Robert Großkopf         4
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        Timur                   3
        Elmar                   2
        Gwyn Ciesla             2
        Mike Kaganski           2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          5
        Rafael Lima             5
        Matt K                  4
        Nagy Tibor              4
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Justin Luth             2
        Kelemen, Gabor          2
        Le Grand, Armin         2
        Samuel Mehrbrodt        2
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        16
        m.a.riosv               9
        Heiko Tietze            8
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      7
        Nabet, Julien           5
        Kaganski, Mike          4
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Patrick Luby            3
        Rafael Lima             3
        *UNKNOWN*               2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Kelemen, Gabor         3
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Kelemen, Gabor         3
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         federico.castellani    2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Matt K                 1
         monikafun21            1
         Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1260(+10) bugs open of 13124(+21) total 20(-2) high prio.

      done by:
         Kelemen, Gabor                4
         Stéphane Guillou              4
         Ilmari Lauhakangas            2
         Robert Großkopf               2
         Telesto                       2
         Xisco Fauli                   2
         Dieter                        1
         Weghorn, Michael              1
         m.a.riosv                     1
         Stefan_Lange_KA at T-Online.de   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 14(-1)
      Calc          - 2(+0)
      Impress       - 1(-1)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(-1)
      Linux         - 4(-1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 451(+7)
      Calc                     - 230(+3)
      Impress                  - 130(-1)
      Draw                     - 52(+0)
      Crashes                  - 51(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 51(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 43(+0)
      Base                     - 40(-1)
      UI                       - 39(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 26(-1)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(-2)
      filters and storage      - 21(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 11(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 7(+0)
      framework                - 5(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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