Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-25
Heiko Tietze
heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Jan 25 14:34:01 UTC 2024
Present: Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Ady, Rafael
Tickets/Topics
* Remove status bar 'document modified' indicator
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159073
+ status not shown in title for new documents (Eyal)
+ title does not show the status (anymore?) but the save icon
+ redundant information is not bad per se, the toolbar button is
primarily meant to run an action but not to give feedback (users
may not expect it there)
+ with the Notebookbar UI it's not guaranteed to see the toolbar info
+ and the statusbar icon looks pretty nice
=> WF
* Comment indicator in Calc should be red, not magenta
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159096
+ border uses now the grid line color (Heiko)
+ red would be a bad choice as it typically indicates errors (Mike)
+ yellow and red might be used for cell background (Ady)
+ orange (Rafael)
+ invert the cell background color (Ryal)
+ looses the customizability and becomes difficult on mid-bright colors
+ do it just when the picked color is close to the cell background
+ algorithm is tricky, and variable colors make the display busy
+ Magenta (a bit less glossy) is used on Excel
+ Light Magenta 3 is a bit too close with "Bad" cell style,
Light Magenta 2 is fine (Eyal, Sahil)
+ works also well in dark mode
=> change the color
* Double click on a comment in Navigator should open the cell for editing
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158707
+ in 7.4 double click goes to cell
+ in 7.6 single click selects, double executes the default action-
in this case go-to plus editing the comment
+ a) edit comment, cursor at the end?, b) edit cell, cursor at the end?,
c) just go-to and toggle the comment visibility, d) just go-to cell
+ in most cases the comment text should be readable in the Navigator and
double-click is likely intended to edit the comment (all)
+ expect double-click to toggle show/hide; directly going into edit mode
feels dangerous but just showing makes editing difficult (ctrl+alt+c)
and my muscle memory is F2 to edit; so ideally we select the comment
frame in order to use F2 (all)
+ single click does not change the view but shows this comment temporarily
(until clicking somewhere else), double-click navigates to the cell, make
the comment permanently visible, and double-click again hides it; when
showing the comment per double-click also selects the comment for easy
accessed to edit (Eyal)
+ double-click surely should not edit the cell content (Eyal)
+ comments disappear unreliably (Sahil)
+ having comments in a dedicated sidebar allows more flexible
solutions (Sahil)
=> comment in ticket
* When search key is not found, search text seems to be selected but is not
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158742
+ behavior has changed but still no selection is being made
+ changing the search term partially is more likely, ie. selection in order
to overwrite completely is not intended (Heiko)
+ ctrl+f selects the search text in any case (Heiko)
+ clearly NAB/WF (Eyal)
=> resolve ticket
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