Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-25

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Jan 25 14:34:01 UTC 2024


Present: Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Ady, Rafael

Tickets/Topics

  * Remove status bar 'document modified' indicator
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159073
    + status not shown in title for new documents (Eyal)
      + title does not show the status (anymore?) but the save icon
    + redundant information is not bad per se, the toolbar button is
      primarily meant to run an action but not to give feedback (users
      may not expect it there)
    + with the Notebookbar UI it's not guaranteed to see the toolbar info
    + and the statusbar icon looks pretty nice
    => WF

  * Comment indicator in Calc should be red, not magenta
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159096
    + border uses now the grid line color (Heiko)
    + red would be a bad choice as it typically indicates errors (Mike)
    + yellow and red might be used for cell background (Ady)
    + orange (Rafael)
    + invert the cell background color (Ryal)
      + looses the customizability and becomes difficult on mid-bright colors
    + do it just when the picked color is close to the cell background
      + algorithm is tricky, and variable colors make the display busy
    + Magenta (a bit less glossy) is used on Excel
    + Light Magenta 3 is a bit too close with "Bad" cell style,
      Light Magenta 2 is fine (Eyal, Sahil)
      + works also well in dark mode
    => change the color

  * Double click on a comment in Navigator should open the cell for editing
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158707
    + in 7.4 double click goes to cell
    + in 7.6 single click selects, double executes the default action-
      in this case go-to plus editing the comment
    + a) edit comment, cursor at the end?, b) edit cell, cursor at the end?,
      c) just go-to and toggle the comment visibility, d) just go-to cell
    + in most cases the comment text should be readable in the Navigator and
      double-click is likely intended to edit the comment (all)
    + expect double-click to toggle show/hide; directly going into edit mode
      feels dangerous but just showing makes editing difficult (ctrl+alt+c)
      and my muscle memory is F2 to edit; so ideally we select the comment
      frame in order to use F2 (all)
    + single click does not change the view but shows this comment temporarily
      (until clicking somewhere else), double-click navigates to the cell, make
      the comment permanently visible, and double-click again hides it; when
      showing the comment per double-click also selects the comment for easy
      accessed to edit (Eyal)
    + double-click surely should not edit the cell content (Eyal)
    + comments disappear unreliably (Sahil)
    + having comments in a dedicated sidebar allows more flexible
      solutions (Sahil)
    => comment in ticket

  * When search key is not found, search text seems to be selected but is not
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158742
    + behavior has changed but still no selection is being made
    + changing the search term partially is more likely, ie. selection in order
      to overwrite completely is not intended (Heiko)
    + ctrl+f selects the search text in any case (Heiko)
    + clearly NAB/WF (Eyal)
    => resolve ticket
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