ESC meeting minutes: 2024-07-04

Stephan Bergmann stephan.bergmann at allotropia.de
Thu Jul 4 14:28:37 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Olivier, Jonathan, Michael W., Heiko, Regina, Ilmari, Stephan, 
Hossein,
       Michael S., Cloph, Xisco, Caolan

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   * 24.8.0 rc1 this week
     still on 24-8 branch
     string and UI freeze, additional review then needed
     24-8-0 branch in week 30
   * 24.2.5 rc2 next week
     + 24.2.4 emergency fix for Mac on Appstore (Calc crash)

     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161461

     - Xisco: lots of reports, proposal to release 24.2.5 early?

     - Cloph would rather wait for more patches for 24.2.5 release,

       can shorten time between rc2 and final (release Thursday next week

       maybe)

   * Python on Windows 7 breakage (Ilmari):
      - propose: remove Windows 7 support for 25.2, add to 24.8 release 
notes? (Mike)
      - unclear what's meant with "removing support" (Cloph)
        + stating that it's unsupported is fine, but actively hindering 
users from
          using it is not (Cloph)
      - reported minium requirement on our website currently is 7, would 
bump to 8
        https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/ (Heiko)
      - Ilmari will take care of wording in release notes
      - actively issue warnings (e.g. in installer)?  (Hossein)
        - not necessary (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
         + fixes (ohallot, buovjaga, Pierre F)
     + Guides
         + Work in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         246(246) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     1(-13)   25(-10)    94(-3)    232(0)
          commented     1(-20)   73(-16)   230(-13)   890(-7)
           resolved     1(-7)    15(-5)     62(0)     140(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 43 changes in 1 month, and 270 changes in 
1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes 
in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 16 changes in 1 month, and 122 
changes in
             1 year
           Raal made 12 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 
1 year
           Dione Maddern made 9 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 
year
           Justin Luth made 8 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes 
in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         239(239) (topicUI) bugs open, 30(30) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated
         by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      2(-1)      7(-2)     11(-1)      18(-2)
          commented     35(-13)   141(-25)   449(-12)   1752(-3)
            removed      0(0)       2(0)       6(-1)      11(0)
           resolved      2(-8)     29(-3)     77(-4)     290(0)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 91 changes in 1 month, and 961 changes in 1 
year
           Stéphane Guillou made 53 changes in 1 month, and 615 changes 
in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 48 changes in 1 month, and 337 
changes in
             1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 35 changes in 1 month, and 182 changes in 
1 year
           Dieter made 28 changes in 1 month, and 153 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 18 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 140 
changes in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 11 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 6 changes in 1 month, and 77 changes in 1 
year
           Henschel, Regina made 6 changes in 1 month, and 43 changes in 
1 year
     + [Bug 161862] Viewing: Feature request. Is it possible to add a 
horizontal
            scroll search.
     + [Bug 118698] Pressing tab with some content of a table cell 
selected, selects
            the full cell & the cell next to it
     + [Bug 161781] Application Colors dialog should have a quick way to 
revert
            all colors to Automatic
  -> + [Bug 161760] Can't set the width of character outline
            + supported by ODF?, input welcome
     + [Bug 161717] Track changes: Clicking on change in document should 
highlight
            related change in "Manage Changes" window/sidebar
     + [Bug 161455] Unexpected Selecting when character is selected and 
use TAB to
            move to next cell

  -> + [Bug 159541] Dark background color ignores fix font color
       + remove Font Color from Tools > Options > Application Colors

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 26(+5) import failure, 21(+5) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 3,320 coverity issues
       - still experimenting with best Coverity version to use, which 
options exist
         there
     + 12 ossfuzz issues
       - 3 crashes, 1 OOM, remainder timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.6.3    9301(+359)
     + 7.6.7.2    6285(+1163)
     + 24.2.1.2    18401(+433)
     + 24.2.2.2    16768(+665)
     + 24.2.3.2    13676(+970)
     + 24.2.4.2    5451(+1956)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + New draft blog post on dev blog
    LibreOfficeKit for document conversion
 
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1187&preview=1&_ppp=972e041dd7
    + Thoughts on using LOK unstable API? Input wanted
  + Added as ODK example
    https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/169998
           committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open     115(30)      208(4)      211(6)       211(6)
                reviews     502(-108)   1750(190)   3458(52)    12998(94)
                 merged     314(-13)    1275(81)    3399(58)    12753(28)
              abandoned      20(0)        88(6)      190(12)      701(7)
            own commits     166(-24)     753(-28)   2345(-16)    9326(20)
         review commits      57(-79)     308(5)      754(-19)    3100(-2)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      40(-16)     92(-11)     93(-16)      93(-16)
                reviews     984(12)    3244(178)   7738(60)    29622(38)
                 merged      41(-13)    125(31)     291(-22)    1589(14)
              abandoned       8(7)       27(2)      100(3)       717(3)
            own commits      35(-25)    137(16)     335(-20)    1209(14)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 325(325)
        total 410(410)   assigned 24(24)   open 352(352)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 65 patches in 1 month, and 84 patches in 1 year
           Ritobroto Mukherjee made 7 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches 
in 1 year
           Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 4 patches in 1 month, and 65 patches in 1 year
           Pierre F made 4 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 
patches in
             1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches 
in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 2 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 
1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Nabet, Julien made 218 review comments in 1 month, and 980 in 
1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 1172 
in 1 year
           Taichi Haradaguchi made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 
326 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 
452 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 718 in 1 
year
           Thorsten Behrens made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 668 
in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 
576 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1472 
in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 498 in 
1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 72 review comments in 1 month, 
and 598 in
             1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#148192 Create new option External Firebird under create new 
database
         ( Juan C. Sanz )
           -> WIP, restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/143902
         WIP: tdf#51779 - Support for SQL datatype INTERVAL ( Devansh 
Varshney )
           -> WIP, restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165012
         WIP: tdf#32506 Find & Replace for Base ( Devansh Varshney )
           -> WIP, restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165226
         Simplify erase ( Zainab Abbasi )
           -> OK, needs changes by the author, no response yet
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166193
         tdf#160194 Add all 3 Spotlight commands (Paragraph Style, 
Character Style,
         Direct Formatting) to Style Inspector ( Ashwani Kumar )
           -> OK, needs changes by the author, no response yet
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166381

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + Midterm evaluations deadline 12 July
     - some slightly delayed projects, too
   + for LibOCon, should participants submit lightning talks to present 
their projects
     or is that handled differently (e.g. one slot for all)? (Michael W)
     + has always been a dedicated slot, no need to submit separate 
talks (Ilmari)

LiboCon - CfP is open:
    * https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 10 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 190 ok: 182 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.63% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 34) median_ok:   9 ( 26)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 189 ok: 185 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.59% 
mean_ok:  13 ( 33) median_ok:  10 ( 23)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 190 ok: 183 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.63% 
mean_ok:  13 ( 34) median_ok:   9 ( 27)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 190 ok: 184 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.11% 
mean_ok:  13 ( 35) median_ok:   9 ( 24)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 391 ok: 319 ko:  62 fail ratio: 15.86% 
mean_ok:  51 ( 73) median_ok:  48 ( 66)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 470 ok: 365 ko:  74 fail ratio: 15.74% 
mean_ok:  27 ( 47) median_ok:  20 ( 35)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 391 ok: 348 ko:  34 fail ratio: 8.70% 
mean_ok:  57 ( 62) median_ok:  49 ( 55)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 419 ok: 303 ko: 105 fail ratio: 25.06% 
mean_ok:  64 ( 81) median_ok:  59 ( 69)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 516 ok: 260 ko: 212 fail ratio: 41.09% 
mean_ok: 137 (139) median_ok: 115 (115)
gerrit_master              jobs:  49 ok:  24 ko:  20 fail ratio: 40.82% 
mean_ok:  76 ( 78) median_ok:  63 ( 63)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 467 ok: 236 ko: 192 fail ratio: 41.11% 
mean_ok: 137 (143) median_ok: 119 (119)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 Killed by the kill-wrapper 
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 CppunitTest_sd_annotation_tests 
gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_autocorrect                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test3 
gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       5 CppunitTest_sw_htmlexport                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       5 CppunitTest_sw_rtfexport8                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      12 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
      53 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
      + problems with Windows bots, failing lots of builds in a row
     + timeout issue withsw_a11y, probably

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
    + A11y update (Michael W)
      no news this week
    + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
        + tdf#101686 Text render changes to RTL depending on zoom level
            - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101686
            - VCL RTL state leaking into LTR context. Fixed.

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1185 (+23)
         + enhancements: 265  (+3)
         + needsUXEval: 4 (-1)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  5 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         None

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +91  +51 (-82) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       12
        László Németh           7
        ady                     6
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Julien Nabet            4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Tibor Nagy              4
        Balázs Varga (allotropia) 2
        Buovjaga                2
     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        kolAflash               3
        Óvári                   3
        Daniele                 2
        Rafael Lima             2
        Robert Großkopf         2
        Hossein                 1
        Oliver                  1
        Olivier Hallot          1
     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Németh, László          7
        Nagy Tibor              4
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Balazs Varga            2
        Michael Stahl           2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Patrick Luby            2
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Aron Budea              1
     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        18
        m.a.riosv               9
        Nabet, Julien           5
        *UNKNOWN*               3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Ady                     2
        Patrick Luby            2
        Alex Thurgood           1
        Balland-Poirier, Laurent 1


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