Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jul-31

[Heiko Tietze]

Present:  Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Justin, Stephane, Stuart, Cor

Tickets/Topics

(Suggested bump-up (Eyal):
   * Cell selecting fat border looks ugly especially if you selected some
     cell range, it also can block content in other cells
     https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161709
     + Rafael: Made commits to improve the cosmetic situation, consider
       the bug fixed.
     + Rafael: This was done to resolve 143733, which requested the
       rectangle not cover the active cell
     + Heiko: Suggest accepting the current situation for now
     + Eyal: Serious degradation of UX - text in surrounding cells
       partially hidden, can make one value appear as another due
       to hiding.
     + Eyal: Suggest back-out of changes to before 143733, for now, and
       reconsideration. Must fix this for 24.8 release.
     + Eyal, Mihai, Rafael, Roman, flm2: Excel active cell rectangle looks
       nice
=> please discuss at Bugzilla or the mailinglists (Heiko)
)

   * No option to automatically indent multiline list entries to align
     with numbering followed by space
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156071
     + line up *subsequent lines* of each list entry, see c12
     + no good example for the necessity (Mike, Cor, Heiko)
     + mandatory to have this as cross-platform feature (Justin, Cor)
     + A tab is, in the general sense, an inherently flawed solution,
       because once your number exceeds the tab width - you'll overflow
       and the alignment will be messed up (Eyal)
     + Request is reasonable (Eyal):
       + Follows a different aesthetic principle: Fixed amount of space
         between number and paragraph content v-start rather than uniform
         content v-start across all paragraphs
       + Should be implemented via a paragraph feature to move all lines
         further in to respect the maximum constraints on each individual
         line (e.g. numbering, wrapping around frames etc.), ensuring
         that the paragraph's v-start is uniform across all lines, without
         having to set it explicitly using indentation and/or tabs.
       + Should be usable even without numbering being active (an aspect
         of a paragraph's style)
     + requires probably also to start a list from any number (Heiko)
     + MSO does exactly the same as we do (Heiko)
     => comment

   * Tab stop of list contents increases then decreases in default
     Roman numeral list, looking messy
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162133
     + Microsoft Office forces right alignment for Roman numerals, often
       with horrible results (Justin)
     + right-alignment is not the right solution => WF (Stephane, Cor)
   => solution follows bug 156071

  * PIVOTTABLE: Formating Pivot Tables
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51732
    + double-click brings up the Data Field dialog currently, add
      a context menu (Stephane. Cor)
    + perhaps more obvious via push button? (Sahil)
    => provide a context menu for the functions

  * Magnifier Tool for a quick overview and spot zoom into a document
    in Multiple-page view
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162101
    + magnifier is always just a click away, eg. Win + +/- on KDE
    + bug it does not render again with a higher resolution (Heiko)
    + "magnifier" would be an excellent feature *in general* (Stuart, Cor)
    + necessary if the app DPI differs from the screen DPI (Csongor)
    + duplicates / relates to bug 101646 "UI option "Scaling" was removed"
      with a lot duplicates itself
    + weird relation to multi-page view; suggest to do with low
      priority (Eyal)
    => comment
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