ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 9 14:53:35 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Cloph, Gabriel, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Olivier, Xisco, sockseight, Caolan, Stephane, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 release: this week, tomorrow
+ 24.2: 24.2.4 RC1 in 1 week
+ 24.8: first alpha this week, from master, tomorrow
+ week 23 is the feature freeze, 4 weeks
+ string / UI freeze 4 weeks after that
+ if you have a late feature proposal, announce that here
+ MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not Linux (Hossein)
+ rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
+ for the ones taking binaries from TDF
+ TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
+ the files are hosted already
+ just the repo defs are missing
+ suggesting to provide these repos
+ proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
+ interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
+ the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
+ willing to help
+ linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
+ so not a huge amount, but not objecting
+ only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
+ what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF releases? (Olivier)
+ the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
+ similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
+ with actively supported versions
+ see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Updates and fixes (A Gelmini. S. Horacek, fitoshido)
+ Changes in makefiles (cloph)
+ Updates in doc properties (Dublin Core) by Dione Maddern
+ Core
+ Extended tips for sparklines
+ Guides
+ important fix by M. Stahl will trigger format review
+ in all guides,
+ starting after LO 24.2.4
+ tdf#159366
+ bugs with >20 comments
+ hard to follow, to understand what is the actual request
+ sometimes asking: if this feature is still used
+ thanks to the precise bugreports
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
263(263) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 14(5) 39(2) 107(7) 225(4)
commented 20(10) 61(0) 255(5) 854(6)
resolved 7(2) 23(5) 54(6) 121(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 42 changes in 1 month, and 239 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 28 changes in 1 month, and 253 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
Kira Tubo made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 4(-1) 10(1) 15(-1) 21(-3)
commented 64(48) 186(30) 525(-6) 1761(-60)
removed 0(-2) 4(-1) 5(0) 12(-1)
resolved 8(2) 31(1) 79(-2) 308(-7)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 110 changes in 1 month, and 1031 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 108 changes in 1 month, and 317 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 51 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 21 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 10 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
Ady made 6 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
jan d made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 161002] Missing item "Insert/Filed/More Fields.." in LibreOffice Draw
+ [Bug 160986] show 'X %' instead of 'X%'
+ [Bug 153309] Prevent direct formatting on writer by a password.
-> + [Bug 98902] Right clicking on selected text unselects it if the cursor is on
a misspelled word
+ [Bug 160955] When selecting an alternative link target for an OLE object, button
says "Insert"
+ [Bug 160954] Can't change OLE Object link target from context menu and
properties dialog
+ [Bug 160949] When editing an OLE object but not taking any action - undo edit
+ [Bug 160950] Warn before performing a destructive/lossy edit of OLE object
+ [Bug 146448] DOCX: A drawing object has a "Remove Textbox" which creates an
empty frame (Captionbox/image frame is converted to Drawing object)
+ [Bug 158526] page number display in the status bar
+ [Bug 160920] Allow choosing the page style from the sheets tab
+ [Bug 160908] "Edit cell background highlight"
+ Vertical tabs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99528
+ many dialogs with many tabs are now changed to use vertical tabs
+ recent change by Samuel
+ concern if this will be 100% by the time 24.8 is out (Xisco)
+ more afraid if these vertical tabs work nicely in so many dialogs (Heiko)
+ think of macOS, Windows, etc.
+ https://conference.libreoffice.org/assets/Conference/Almeria/Caolan-2019-NativeGtk.pdf I tried a few variations of tab placement before, but maybe more luck this time (Caolan)
+ a slide mentions the dialog with the most tabs, some 16, won't fit even the left-hand-side
+ sounds similar to the German shortcuts topic (Xisco)
+ would be good to have consensus here, before going further
+ ask the design team to provide input? (Miklos)
+ people interested in the topic are informed (Heiko)
+ the change was kind of welcome
+ looks great on Gnome, broken with kf5
+ looks more like a list, not tabs
+ macOS/Windows need checking
+ to make it really appealing, needs more work, though
+ expect a lot of effort should come after the first commits are in
+ also consider the doc team's work to update screenshots (Olivier)
+ but if all work is done, it may be a nice fresh look (Heiko)
+ indeed, looks nice (Olivier)
+ so this is welcome, but very much error-prone (Heiko)
AI: invite Samuel next week if there are still burning fires (Heiko)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 24(-39) import failure, 20(-39) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting is useful again
+ 1 coverity issue
- just hit the weird possible coverity misunderstanding of virtual base warnings with a hammer
+ 6 ossfuzz issues
- 5 timeouts, 1 new crash in 3rd party lib
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.5.2 10647(+840)
+ 7.6.6.3 4068(+1124)
+ 24.2.0.3 17369(+591)
+ 24.2.1.2 13738(+798)
+ 24.2.2.2 8930(+1873)
+ 24.2.3.2 487(+0)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20bool%20%60anonymous%20namespace'::IsAllHiddenRow(const%20class%20SwRowFrame%20&%20const,%20const%20class%20SwTabFrame%20&%20const)
- Fixed in 24.2.3.2. Thanks to Michael S.
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20%20%60com::sun::star::document::DocumentProperties::create'::%601'::catch$14()
- New in 24.2 branch. Most reported crash atm
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ New EasyHack
tdf#160992 - Fix DPI dependent tests
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160992
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 81(-11) 142(-21) 178(-17) 178(-17)
reviews 450(100) 1206(56) 3718(76) 12462(22)
merged 350(51) 1140(127) 3369(127) 12593(81)
abandoned 13(4) 55(-2) 172(-2) 656(-1)
own commits 250(27) 827(103) 2303(119) 9229(1)
review commits 51(3) 224(-8) 871(14) 3012(-51)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 37(4) 77(7) 103(8) 103(8)
reviews 962(132) 2774(178) 7906(220) 29522(6)
merged 23(3) 98(-20) 385(5) 1635(-61)
abandoned 9(-4) 49(-5) 288(-10) 704(-3)
own commits 25(0) 105(-8) 449(10) 1126(-7)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 326(326)
total 408(408) assigned 26(26) open 348(348)
+ top 10 contributors:
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 87 patches in 1 year
Ritobroto Mukherjee made 5 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
Kira Tubo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
Jakub Kościelak made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
colton Garrett made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 58 patches in 1 year
Sahil Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Jonathan Clark made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 512 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 548 in 1 year
Hossein made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 338 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1440 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 920 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 596 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 698 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 472 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 1078 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 362 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
basegfx: BColorStops shouldn't derive from std::vector ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158710
tdf#114441 change use of sal_uLong to better integer types ( Achintya Sharma )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159028
wip: don't typedetect ole before load ( Caolán McNamara )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/161084
tdf#155856 Added cmake to DocumentLoader example ( Konstantin Limarev )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/162978
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/05/07/projects-selected-for-libreoffice-in-the-google-summer-of-code-2024/
+ next deadline: end of bonding period: 27th of May
+ blog post is published, seeing emails from contributors
* Commit Access
+ Jonathan Clark
+ pretty happy with the commits so far (Caolan)
+ with the condition to self-review in areas where you're confident, and not otherwise
+ also please help out with reviews for changes by others
=> go ahead (all)
AI: send welcome mail (Xisco)
AI: enable the commit bit (Cloph)
* LibreOffice Technology hackfest at Budapest (Miklos)
+ 4th & 5th June (Tue-Wed)
+ details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Budapest2024
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 4 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 202 ok: 193 ko: 7 fail ratio: 3.47% mean_ok: 10 ( 13) median_ok: 7 ( 8)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 204 ok: 194 ko: 6 fail ratio: 2.94% mean_ok: 9 ( 12) median_ok: 7 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 201 ok: 193 ko: 7 fail ratio: 3.48% mean_ok: 10 ( 13) median_ok: 7 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 204 ok: 196 ko: 5 fail ratio: 2.45% mean_ok: 10 ( 13) median_ok: 8 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 410 ok: 353 ko: 46 fail ratio: 11.22% mean_ok: 42 ( 44) median_ok: 41 ( 42)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 461 ok: 394 ko: 55 fail ratio: 11.93% mean_ok: 19 ( 21) median_ok: 15 ( 16)
gerrit_mac jobs: 417 ok: 355 ko: 44 fail ratio: 10.55% mean_ok: 53 ( 55) median_ok: 49 ( 50)
gerrit_windows jobs: 432 ok: 314 ko: 103 fail ratio: 23.84% mean_ok: 69 (114) median_ok: 71 ( 85)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 500 ok: 281 ko: 188 fail ratio: 37.60% mean_ok: 127 (127) median_ok: 99 ( 99)
gerrit_master jobs: 61 ok: 40 ko: 17 fail ratio: 27.87% mean_ok: 100 (101) median_ok: 83 ( 83)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 440 ok: 241 ko: 172 fail ratio: 39.09% mean_ok: 130 (131) median_ok: 102 (102)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 UITest_sw_navigator gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_svx_unit gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_1 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport7 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
5 CppunitTest_sw_rtfexport8 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
12 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
13 CppunitTest_sw_a11y gerrit_windows
+ this week: we had an unexpected restart of Jenkins last Thursday (Cloph)
+ it affected a couple of builds
+ also yesterday: Jenkins disk was filled up, caused a bigger distruption
+ it's not easy to trigger builds for these
+ possibly will work this around by rebasing
+ Windows failure on Friday: failed some builds due to leftovers
+ good news: macOS clang crash seems to be fixed by a patch, thanks Noel
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/167294
+ didn't see any failures with new enough master
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#61444 Correct Writer text layout across formatting changes
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61444
+ In-flight
+ tdf#124116 Correct Writer text shaping across formatting changes
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124116
+ Fix mostly complete; investigating some justification issues
+ tdf#160984 Section-based continuous endnotes in Writer (Miklos)
+ Dev Guide updates (Ilmari)
+ API links all work now
+ finished by scripting it :-)
+ Stéphane adding newly-ported examples
+ Synchronising wiki content/code with the current state of core repo based on pointers in 'git log odk/examples'
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1208 (+28)
+ enhancements: 281 (+5)
+ needsUXEval: 5 (-2)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
+ documentation: 6 (+2)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
None
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ Some interesting consolidated/reviewed reports:
* (sw) Top row(s) deselected when selecting table rows beyond what is visible: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126377
* (sw) Furigana (ruby) character selection system undesired output: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107184
* (ui) Chart sidebar glitches reaches 12 duplicates: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94322
* (ui) tabbed UI's cog/hamburger menu opens in wrong display. 4 reports on this issue, but Windows and Linux separate for now:
* Windows: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132139
* Linux: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154592
* Should they be merged?
+ think it's fine to keep them separate (Ilmari)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+103 -22 (-114) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 20
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 18
Heiko Tietze 10
Mike Kaganski 10
Olivier Hallot 6
Buovjaga 5
V Stuart Foote 5
Michael Weghorn 3
Patrick Luby (volunteer) 3
Julien Nabet 2
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Eyal Rozenberg 6
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
Mike Kaganski 4
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 4
NOYB 3
Regina Henschel 3
Robert Großkopf 3
V Stuart Foote 3
Heiko Tietze 2
Mihai Vasiliu 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Kaganski, Mike 7
Heiko Tietze 6
Olivier Hallot 5
Patrick Luby 3
Balazs Varga 2
Justin Luth 2
Nabet, Julien 2
Stéphane Guillou 2
Vajna, Miklos 2
Weghorn, Michael 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Stéphane Guillou 11
Heiko Tietze 9
m.a.riosv 9
Nabet, Julien 6
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Kaganski, Mike 3
*UNKNOWN* 2
Dieter 2
Robert Großkopf 2
Vernon, Stuart Foote 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Raal 2
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Raal 2
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1236(+4) bugs open of 13341(+14) total 23(+2) high prio.
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 3
Ady 2
m.a.riosv 2
Kaganski, Mike 1
Raal 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 15(+1)
Calc - 2(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
UI - 2(+1)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 17(+1)
Linux - 4(+1)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 433(+1)
Calc - 227(+3)
Impress - 127(+0)
Draw - 52(-1)
LibreOffice - 51(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
Base - 40(+0)
Crashes - 39(+1)
UI - 38(+1)
Borders - 35(+0)
Writer: perf - 34(-1)
Writer: other filter - 30(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 25(+1)
Chart - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
filters and storage - 22(+0)
BASIC - 20(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 16(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
Formula Editor - 7(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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