Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Sep-11

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Sep 11 19:25:18 UTC 2024


Present: Sahil, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Steve, Ady, Kenneth

Tickets/Topics

  * The "Check for updates" dialog should provide links to
    release candidate wiki pages
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149400
    + Wiki format is sufficient (Stuart)
    + No problem with a link to the point release in the updater (Rafael)
    + Not much beneficial since minor updates are (usually) just
      bug fixes (Rafael)
    + unclear why someone wants to learn about release candidates (Sahil)
    => keep with minor importance and add a link to the major and the minor
      release at the update info

  * Comment indicator size and color aesthetics and customization
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162660
    + proposals in c16
    + no need to fix, other app do the same (Rafael)
    + depending on the background? probably not; and makes the UI busy (Rafael)
    + if many users complain about the border we may add an advanced
      option (Sahil)
    + border was white in the past
    + using an icon could be a solution (Sahil)
      + but blocks changing the color, has issues with zooming,
        and RTL/LTR (Heiko)
    => resolve WF; we have no solution that makes everyone happy

  * make active cell highlight selection grid line a bright grey instead
    of white in dark mode or not use it at all?
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162759
    + competitors also show a white inline rectangle (Rafael)
    + necessary to keep the focus rectangle visible even on a cell
      background close to the highlight/accent color (Ady)
    + unlikely use case (Steve)
    + a) use document background (not sure to provide good contrast; and
         looks ugly),
      b) merge the highlight color with the background and have less contrast,
      c) go with white (guarantees to be visible together with the focus color)
    + no user ever complained on other office suites about the color (Rafael)
    => WF

  * UI missing for nesting character styles
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115311
    + ability to nest CS is extremely important (Kenneth)
    + request is to apply more than one CS, eg. Emphasis+Strong Emphasis
      (Eyal) (and consequently to highlight both in the Stylist)
    + it is possible to inherit CS and Strong Emphasis can be moved
      under Emphasis which applies attributes from both styles; this nesting
      can also be done per Inherit From attribute (Heiko)
      + Style Inspector does not properly read the nested CS attributes
    + stacking is what Eyal suggests while nesting implies a hierarchy (Sahil)
    + similar discussion for PS where one style is wished to be available
      under different parents (Heiko)
    + we should not make the styles handling more complicated (Rafael)
    => comment and keep ticket for more wisdom
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