Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Sep-25

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, Lorenz, John, Heiko
Comments: Regina, Stuart, Manu, Roman, Laurent, Regina

Tickets/Topics

  * Want access from borders toolbar menubutton to Format > Cells...
    Borders pane
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162967
    + valid request, similar to many other places (Regina, Stuart, Eyal)
    + toolbar buttons should be simple and provide quick and easy
      access (Heiko)
    + could be done similar to Underline (Sahil)
    + Ribbon always offer access to more properties (Eyal)
    => go it (consider Border Style as well)

  * Need way to avoid selecting fonts which don't cover the relevant
    language Unicode range
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122
    + comment 32: add a filter to the special character dialog
    + rather use/improve the Special Characters dialog or
      maybe extend the SCD with a font filter (Stuart)
      + such a filter could be added to the font tab (Heiko)
      + it is not the request; would not give an immediate understanding (Eyal)
      + unicode blocks not necessarily cover some font, eg. Farsi
        or diacritics in general (Eyal)
    + make live preview as known from Calc available in Writer (Manu)
      + could be done as a checkbox "[ ] Fonts covering the selection" in
        the character dialog (Heiko)
      + selection is not always present (Eyal)
      + would be actually against the use case of "I want to write a text in
        some language and don't know the right font" since text has been
        written in this case (Heiko)
    + proposing (Eyal)
      1. map languages to glyphs like English A:Z, German A:Z,ß,
         Arabic <aleph><zeta>
      2. when a language is used (UI, document, etc) the list of fonts is tagged
         as appropriate; and fonts are indicated (could be done by dimming)
         or filtered (prefer a filter)
      3. doubt hat filtering covers the use case (Heiko); corner cases such as
         multi-selections for later (Eyal)
    + expertise from local communities needed (John, Sahil, Lorenz)
    => continue the discussion on the ticket

  * Reworked localized Impress templates look ugly in RU
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162878
    -> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163116
    + patches fix most issues except Freshes - c14, c16 (Roman, Laurent)
    + alternative could be some generic text like Alpha Beta...
      or we delete the example slide completely (Heiko)
    + but actually would keep it (Heiko)
    + localized "Some Text 1", "Some Text 2" (Sahil)
      or without the text (Lorenz)
    + localization to RTL would still be silly (Eyal)
    + some people may even not be able to read the letters (Eyal)
    + morse alphabet... ;-) (Sahil)
    + we could ship localized templates (Sahil)
    => keep as it is for now (aka WF)

  * New layouts for LO Impress
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93087
    + Handout and Notes suggestions seem useful (Stuart)
    + rather make it customizable, bug 78156 (Regina)
      + customization on top would be great but some good defaults
        are needed anyway
    + before/after needed to decide (Eyal)
    + no harm in adding more layouts (John)
    => proposals are fine and implementation is welcome
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