ESC meeting minutes: 2025-04-03

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Apr 3 14:29:50 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Caolan, Olivier, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Jonathan, Michael W, Michael S, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
   + developer certification: start the current round (Miklos)

* Pending Action Items:
   + bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
     + in progress at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317, needs more work (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.7 rc1 in 2 weeks
   + 25.2.3 rc1 in 1 week

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents 2
        + Some fixes in Xapian (ohallot)
        + added header/footer help for new developments (ohallot)
        + Scriptforge improvements ( A. Romedenne)
     + Guides
        + Math guide 25.2 published
        + Calc & Getting Started work in progress (ohallor D. Maddern)
        + We implemented a Deck Board application for Guide production & translation
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         219(219) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      8(6)    22(6)      53(3)     300(1)
          commented     23(21)   50(22)    131(20)    866(1)
           resolved      3(2)    10(3)      29(3)     174(0)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 23 changes in 1 month, and 365 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 9 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 81 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 4 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Raal made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 4 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 4 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         223(223) (topicUI) bugs open, 8(8) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(3)      4(3)      4(3)       11(1)
          commented     26(0)    103(8)    248(5)     1245(-10)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)      0(0)        8(-3)
           resolved      6(2)     24(3)     47(5)      216(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 46 changes in 1 month, and 652 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 40 changes in 1 month, and 201 changes in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 24 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 375 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 20 changes in 1 month, and 197 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 14 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year
           Kłos, Szymon made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Mohamed Hani made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Fortin Tam, Jean-François made 7 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
           Shi Qiu made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  -> + [Bug 166016] EPUB output requires metadata to be entered each time
       + perhaps handle it similar to the PDF export dialog (Miklos)
     + [Bug 166012] Apply style:script-type when users manually set a language for
            a run containing weak characters
     + [Bug 166004] When editing text in textbox, can't format the box via menus
     + [Bug 164675] Deleting (or cutting to clipboard) an image deletes the whole
            slide (see comment 5)
  -> + [Bug 165814] Consider using vertical tabs for any GTK dialog with more
            than 6 tabs
     + [Bug 165971] Need ability to anchor a callout endpoint to a piece of
            text or other content
     + [Bug 165956] Find toolbar missing a Regular Expression toggle button
     + [Bug 165936] Cursor is not moved correctly when using rows with merged cells
            in LibreOffice Writer
     + [Bug 165931] Regular expressions must be able to match non-break line endings
     + [Bug 101142] Print preview picks the color from the document background
            option (should be wysiwyg even in dark mode)


* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 144(+0) import failure, 32(+0) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 4 coverity issues
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
      - 2 crashes, 2 OOM, 2 timeouts
        + fix for one OOM pushed

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.2.0.2    203(+2)
     + 25.2.0.3    27898(+2491)
     + 25.2.1.2    17129(+4141)
     + 25.2.2.2    935(+0)

     + Fixed in 25.2.2.2

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SdrDragResize::MoveSdrDrag(Point%20const%20&)

     - Thanks to Sahil



* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + busy week, lots of new contributors
   + many non-trivial easy hack submissions around GSoC
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      46(-6)     125(-9)     131(-4)      131(-4)
                reviews     396(-36)   1454(-70)   3688(66)    13398(-10)
                 merged     233(59)     968(-64)   3154(135)   14071(-6)
              abandoned      13(1)       60(-5)     184(1)       733(5)
            own commits     147(48)     568(-57)   2052(75)     9861(-33)
         review commits      57(17)     225(14)     635(13)     2941(-22)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open     315(90)     615(-498)   1122(2)      1122(2)
                reviews     744(138)   2614(-142)   7422(272)   30920(-54)
                 merged      35(14)     106(3)       316(1)      1369(-19)
              abandoned      13(-17)     78(-12)     181(3)       517(6)
            own commits      31(12)     103(15)      255(6)      1246(-25)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 349(349)
        total 418(418)   assigned 39(39)   open 341(341)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 13 patches in 1 month, and 42 patches in 1 year
           Devashish gupta made 9 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 8 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Rashesh Padia made 4 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Pierre Vacher made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Shardul Vikram Singh made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 3 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Jan Rheinländer made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Nam Bui made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 152 review comments in 1 month, and 826 in 1 year
           allotropia jenkins made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 518 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1238 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1054 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 352 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 794 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 832 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1138 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 686 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 566 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#117173 Add popup for # of items found/replaced ( Hossein   )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/129649
         forcepoint#109 add test case ( Caolán McNamara )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/138199
         Firebird: upgrade to release 4.0.2 ( Taichi Haradaguchi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/151214
         vcl: aBitmap -> rBitmap ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176568
         vcl: rename enum variables in BitmapEx functions ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176569
         vcl: move BitmapColor.hxx into include/vcl/bitmap directory ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177126
         changed for loops into range-based for loops ( Aaron Berkness )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177908
         vcl: flatten TextEngine::GetWord() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179759
         vcl: simplify TextEngine::DoesKeyChange() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179806
         vcl: make TextEngine::DoesKeyChangeText() more clear ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179807
         WIP always build cairo ( Noel Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180742
         tdf#160770: sc_macros: Add unittest ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180898
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Haokun Wu (columbia.edu)
           Jim Chen
           Manish Mahapatra
           Jesus Solis (mit.edu)
           Mohamed Zaghloul

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + mentees are in the process of writing their proposal
     + 5 days to go
   + Next step: 8th April, applicant deadline

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
   + discussing the candidate(s) for the current round (Miklos)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 177 ok: 168 ko:   8 fail ratio: 4.52% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   5 ( 12)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 178 ok: 172 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.81% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 177 ok: 166 ko:  10 fail ratio: 5.65% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 178 ok: 174 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.12% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 12)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 371 ok: 261 ko:  93 fail ratio: 25.07% mean_ok:  37 ( 44) median_ok:  35 ( 38)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 463 ok: 333 ko:  92 fail ratio: 19.87% mean_ok:  20 ( 26) median_ok:  19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 383 ok: 303 ko:  63 fail ratio: 16.45% mean_ok:  52 ( 53) median_ok:  47 ( 47)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 359 ok: 292 ko:  54 fail ratio: 15.04% mean_ok:  39 ( 43) median_ok:  35 ( 36)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 493 ok: 219 ko: 220 fail ratio: 44.62% mean_ok:  78 ( 78) median_ok:  70 ( 71)
gerrit_master              jobs:  56 ok:  22 ko:  28 fail ratio: 50.00% mean_ok:  53 ( 53) median_ok:  50 ( 50)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 435 ok: 197 ko: 190 fail ratio: 43.68% mean_ok:  80 ( 80) median_ok:  74 ( 74)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sd_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 CppunitTest_dbaccess_hsqldb_test                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       6 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
      21 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      31 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + this week: high number of builds which are stuck, the rest is normal

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + a11y code refactoring and deduplication (XAccessibleEventBroadcaster and
       XAccessibleComponent implementations)
     + native theming is again the default, you need to opt in to use the libreoffice theme
       + Sahil continues to improve the libreoffice theme, though
       + no pushback from him on this
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#88908: DOC/DOCX balance spaces and fullwidth spaces (CJK)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88908
       + May affect some non-CJK docs
   + native full screen mode on macOS is now implemented for 25.8 release (Patrick)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128186
   + meson for externals (cloph)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183345
       + migrates harfbuzz
       + also needed for cairo and pixman
     + managed to get it working on windows in wsl-as-helper method, but not with cygwin yet
       + need to workaround bugs(?) in meson and also add pkgconf as intermediate external
     + meson is implemented python, so building harfbuzz will now depend on internal python
     + is vcpkg usable for this purpose? (Hossein)
       + i.e. taking harfbuzz from vcpkg
       + we want to build it from source, so not really (Cloph)
       + getting ninja from visual studio or win-get is OK, though
     + motivation: harfbuzz is dropping the old build system, so either need to build it with gbuild or work with meson
     + this is just about meson for externals
     + help wrt getting this work in cygwin is appreciated
     + Harfbuzz 9.0.0 release notes: "Autotools build system have been dropped. Meson is the only supported build system in HarfBuzz going forward."
       https://github.com/harfbuzz/harfbuzz/releases/tag/9.0.0
     + Khaled's idea: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183425 to have harfbuzz as an static library
       + means maintenance cost in the long run, though (Cloph)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1601 (+27)
         + enhancements: 424  (+8)
         + needsUXEval: 2 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 14 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  6 (+2)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  7 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Paste via slide pane inserts objects but does not select (and cut/del affect the whole slide)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164675

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +98  -6 (-86) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                12
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Noel Grandin            6
        Justin L                5
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        BogdanB                 3
        Julien Nabet            3
        Khaled Hosny            3
        Robert Großkopf         2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          7
        Aron Budea              4
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Robert Großkopf         3
        madhavkiran.sodum       3
        Adalbert Hanßen         2
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Justin L                2
        hakan.stegborn          2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Grandin, Noel           6
        Justin Luth             5
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      4
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Kelemen, Gabor          3
        Johann Lorber           2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Andreas Heinisch        1
        Aron Budea              1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Raal                    9
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      8
        m.a.riosv               6
        *UNKNOWN*               4
        Aron Budea              4
        Bogdan B                3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Justin Luth             2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Németh, László          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         libre                  5
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         libre                  4
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1240(-3) bugs open of 14011(+10) total 23(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Raal                   2
         Bogdan B               1
         David                  1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+0)
      Linux         - 4(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 412(+3)
      Calc                     - 240(-1)
      Impress                  - 127(-4)
      LibreOffice              - 55(+0)
      Draw                     - 47(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Crashes                  - 43(+0)
      Base                     - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      UI                       - 34(-1)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 27(+0)
      filters and storage      - 27(+2)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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