Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Jun-18

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Eyal, Karthik, Sahil, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Olivier

Tickets/Topics

  * Formating -> Spotlight menu, a single UNO control to toggle All
    (Char DF, CS, PS) visible or hidden
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166888
    + reasonable addition (Stuart)
    + over-engineering (Heiko)
    + wont harm usability to have another item at the submenu (Eyal)
    + use case unclear, OP has not commented (Eyal)
      + different scenarios where for example user look for DF
        only (Heiko)
    + against the proposal, with the addition to the Styles Inspector
      "all" is just three clicks away (Sahil, Karthik)
    => majority against so WF

  * Add an UI language selector to the First-Start-Dialog
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166884
    + effort made to provided locale and language by default (Stuart)
    + this means to show the (almost) complete Locales tab (Heiko)
    + initial setup is not reliable; locale often misconfigured (Eyal)
    + adding (complex) tabs should be done very carefully (Eyal, Heiko)
    + vote to keep until user feedback comes in (Eyal)
    + tend to disagree with the request (Sahil)
    => comment and keep

  * Allow for setting icon/text/icon+text for all toolbars at once
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166881
    + agree to allow single selection (Stuart)
    + UI variants are designed for different needs, such a global
      switch contradicts this; most toolbars become oversized with
      text anyway (Heiko)
    + show the option at the Tools > Options > Appearance tab (Eyal)
    + individual overflowing toolbars might be customized to _not_
      show text (Eyal)
    + beginner users might benefit from icons+text (Karthik, Sahil)
    + opt-in feature, users know where to toggle it off again (Eyal)
    + (optionally) have an overflow mechanism that moves items into a
      second line solves many problems (Sahil, Eyal)
    => new

  * Make uno:SetOptimalColumnWidthDirect (shift+alt+left/right)
    consider the whole column
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166714
    + double-click right column separator in column headers (Olivier)
    + proposal has some charm; unclear what to do in case of
      multi-column selection, probably run individually per column (Heiko)
    + agree with the request (Karthik)
    + if the function works on the selected columns we have both, the
      current scenario and the additional use case for parts of
      the column (Eyal)
    + Excel has no active cell in multi-selection and applies the AutoFit
      function to the selection, as requested
    => go for it
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