ESC meeting minutes: 2025-05-22

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 22 14:34:37 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Olivier, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Michael S, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.2.4 rc2 next week
   + 25.8: beta 1 / feature freeze in 2 weeks
     + alpha build found: Windows signing failed, as part of the Windows 7&8 removal
   + stop shipping 64bit explorer extension/activex component in 32bit windows builds (Cloph)
     + were already missing related 64bit msvc dlls since https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/178049 (removing ucrts, related to no longer supporting windows 7/8.1 also removed the package definition for the msvc dlls)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185564/ (drop activex_64 in 32bit builds)
       + assuming that the COM / Windows scripting is independent from this (Miklos)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185565/ (drop 64bit windows explorer extension from the 32bit builds)
     + [ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185566/ (additional cleanup) ]
     + these were relevant at times when the Windows 64bit port didn't exist
   + macOS build baseline - build on macOS 12 / Xcode 14.2 broken
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/182281 removed workaround for android/also needed on Xcode 14.2
     + other changes like https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/181068 also would
       need same workarounds reinstated
     + also std::unordered_map not available https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185399
     + doesn't affect the runtime baseline
     + proposal: macOS 13 as a baseline for building + Xcode 14.3 or newer
     AI: Cloph to update the core.git README.md for the new baseline
   + new Windows baseline timeline for VS2022? (Miklos)
     + use-case: pdfium is built using clang-cl and newer pdfium doesn't build against VS2019 anymore and is hard to fix
     + planned for the 25.8 cycle (Cloph)
       + need enough CI bots to deal with master & the release branch
       + think it would be before end of June
     + will also unblock the move to the wsl-as-helper case

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Update pages on labels and business cards (ohallot)
        + Update pages on charts (ohallot)
     + Guides
        + Work in progress for Calc and Getting started 25.2
        + Discussions for developing short videos to support doc instructions.

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         227(227) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      6(-4)   30(-8)     57(-2)    287(-3)
          commented     11(-9)   73(-35)   177(8)     866(-25)
           resolved      1(-2)    8(-6)     25(-2)    155(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 57 changes in 1 month, and 387 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 24 changes in 1 month, and 56 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 23 changes in 1 month, and 181 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 11 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Philippe Cloutier made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
           Balland-Poirier, Laurent made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 5 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 4 changes in 1 month, and 247 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         223(223) (topicUI) bugs open, 15(15) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      6(4)    12(3)      13(3)       17(3)
          commented     35(16)   84(14)    218(9)     1120(-7)
            removed      2(2)     2(1)       2(1)        7(1)
           resolved      2(1)     7(-4)     40(1)      192(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 33 changes in 1 month, and 556 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 33 changes in 1 month, and 315 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 15 changes in 1 month, and 178 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 15 changes in 1 month, and 40 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 13 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 194 changes in 1 year
           Devansh Varshney made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           Raal made 8 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 6 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  -> + [Bug 166669] In LibreOffice Calc Conditional Formatting for Duplicates should
            be case insensitive
       + need to take compatiblity into account (Heiko)
  -> + [Bug 163755] Math : incorrect size for fractions of fractions
       + 1 over 2 over 3 -> 3 with smaller font?
     + [Bug 163991] Text Attributes dialog for Textbox - fit option group still
            confusing
  -> + [Bug 166632] Object rotation indication works backwards
       + already has input from Regina
     + [Bug 166641] Support group-title bottom label in tabbed UI
     + [Bug 166623] ENHANCEMENT: When Entering A Password to Open An Encrypted Document,
            Add The Ability to Display The Entered Password
     + [Bug 166529] FILE-OPEN ODT: Endnote doesn't have an indent between numbering
            and text
  -> + [Bug 98263] Autofill does not respect data validation rule
      + would expect the validation rule is respected in all scenarios (Heiko)
     + [Bug 166604] With icon theme controls relocated, rename Options -> View panel
            to 'Rendering'

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 132(-16) import failure, 27(-2) export failures

         - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting

         - 109 issues

     + 6 coverity issues
     + 1 ossfuzz issue

         - Timeout


* Crash Reporting from crashreport.libreoffice.org (Xisco)
     + 25.2.0.3    34012(+181)
     + 25.2.1.2    26297(+229)
     + 25.2.2.2    30652(+3042)
     + 25.2.3.2    4857(+1832)

* Mentoring (Ilmari)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open      46(-28)    115(-25)    128(-27)      128(-27)
                reviews     354(-8)    1338(18)    3228(-172)   13270(-82)
                 merged     276(44)    1063(55)    3084(3)      13940(20)
              abandoned      19(11)      65(-8)     191(-16)      749(7)
            own commits     226(36)     776(43)    2152(20)      9759(27)
         review commits      35(-24)    181(-6)     555(-30)     2840(-27)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open     543(506)    612(490)     630(-5)      630(-5)
                reviews     794(120)   2654(40)     7154(-84)   30610(-14)
                 merged      16(-2)      77(-3)      255(-27)    1316(-6)
              abandoned      20(15)     288(-208)    669(12)     1012(14)
            own commits      13(-8)      71(4)       218(-13)    1195(-9)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 350(350)
        total 416(416)   assigned 57(57)   open 323(323)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 10 patches in 1 month, and 53 patches in 1 year
           Juraj Šarinay made 7 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Shantanu Oak made 6 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Dubey made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 3 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Khaled made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Deepanshu Sharma made 2 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           David Hashe made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 1 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Christian Lohmaier made 142 review comments in 1 month, and 836 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 798 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 1218 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 1196 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 530 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 350 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 334 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 878 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 674 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 552 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         WIP: tdf#32506 Find & Replace for Base ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165226
         tdf#148251 Use std::swap instead of using temporary values ( Zainab Abbasi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168756
         tdf#157484 Add Unit test ( Adam Seskunas )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170864
         tdf#149411 Improve Columns deck at the sidebar ( Ashwani Kumar )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180366
         Added Greeklish to Greek text conversion macro for LibreOffice Writer ( Ioanna Bousmpouki )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/181318
         tdf#165619 Fix ROUND numeric transformation in Data Provider ( Rafael Lima )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182677
         tdf#165657 Enable "Add" button with a valid configuration ( Rafael Lima )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182758
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to enum ( Ahmed Khaled )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182974
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to enum ( Ahmed Khaled )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183036
         draft: RTF import of \page at table end fixed ( Oliver Specht )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183087
         tdf#146112 Fix IsNull behavior with VBASupport on ( Pavankumar Batchu )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183103
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Sebastian Neagu
           AlexTMFN
           Rania Amina
           Ionuț-Marius Militaru

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + June 2: Coding officially begins!

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László)
   + resting since: 3 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 169 ok: 156 ko:   9 fail ratio: 5.33% mean_ok:   8 ( 35) median_ok:   6 ( 27)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 168 ok: 161 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.79% mean_ok:   7 ( 33) median_ok:   5 ( 26)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 169 ok: 154 ko:  11 fail ratio: 6.51% mean_ok:   7 ( 33) median_ok:   5 ( 26)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 168 ok: 163 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.19% mean_ok:   7 ( 34) median_ok:   5 ( 27)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 346 ok: 267 ko:  69 fail ratio: 19.94% mean_ok:  38 ( 62) median_ok:  34 ( 59)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 420 ok: 340 ko:  48 fail ratio: 11.43% mean_ok:  20 ( 40) median_ok:  19 ( 32)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 452 ok: 297 ko: 138 fail ratio: 30.53% mean_ok:  53 ( 73) median_ok:  48 ( 54)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 363 ok: 297 ko:  57 fail ratio: 15.70% mean_ok:  36 ( 44) median_ok:  36 ( 37)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 457 ok: 237 ko: 166 fail ratio: 36.32% mean_ok: 116 (117) median_ok:  93 ( 93)
gerrit_master              jobs:  76 ok:  46 ko:  26 fail ratio: 34.21% mean_ok:  75 ( 75) median_ok:  67 ( 67)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 377 ok: 193 ko: 134 fail ratio: 35.54% mean_ok: 125 (125) median_ok: 103 (103)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 Killed by the kill-wrapper              gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_impress_tests            gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sd_svg_export_tests         gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 aborted by jenkins job timeout          gerrit_windows
    + was OK till today, today had a large queue (Cloph)
    + lots of pushed patches + one fast linux builder was out from the rotation
      + should stabilize again
    + wasm tinderbox is now broken for a few weeks, since the meson changes (Stephan)
      + will have a look (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + further a11y code rework/streamlining
       + currently decoupling vcl::Window a11y from VCLXWindow (toolkit), part 2
     + meant to unblock future feature work
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#162325 vcl: Fix overlapping CJK in vertical justified layouts
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162325
     + tdf#152006 sw: Fix non-responsive apply button in Text Grid settings
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152006
       + In flight

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1651 (-14)
         + enhancements: 461  (+4)
         + needsUXEval: 8 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 14 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  1 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  7 (+0)



     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None



     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Cells far from [A1] only showing first character while typing into cell
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166520
               + already fixed, thanks to Armin

         + Crash when copying from Calc to Writer and undoing
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166565
             + Laszlo?

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +97  -14 (-64) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                7
        Mike Kaganski           6
        m_a_riosv               6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Jonathan Clark          4
        Michael Weghorn         4
        V Stuart Foote          4
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Julien Nabet            2
        Justin L                2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Buovjaga                9
        Alfio Littletree        5
        Telesto                 5
        J22Gim                  4
        Alex                    3
        Regina Henschel         3
        nobu                    3
        Aron Budea              2
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        Mike Kaganski           2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          4
        *UNKNOWN*               3
        Jonathan Clark          3
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Justin Luth             2
        Weghorn, Michael        2
        Xisco Fauli             2
        Óvári                   2
        Aron Budea              1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        *UNKNOWN*               32
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      19
        m.a.riosv               10
        Olivier Hallot          7
        Raal                    6
        Kaganski, Mike          5
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Aron Budea              2
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Pierre                  2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         6
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Raal                   2
         Telesto                1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         6
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Telesto                1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1273(+10) bugs open of 14087(+15) total 23(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         2
         nobu                   2
         Telesto                2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Roman Kuznetsov        1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Raal                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 7(+1)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 421(+2)
      Calc                     - 254(+4)
      Impress                  - 129(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 59(+4)
      Draw                     - 48(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 46(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+1)
      Borders                  - 38(+2)
      Base                     - 37(+0)
      UI                       - 36(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(-1)
      Chart                    - 28(+1)
      filters and storage      - 28(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 22(-2)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+2)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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