<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi, you can find results of my testing in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/roundtrip/layouttext/rslt-web-mod.ods">http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/roundtrip/layouttext/rslt-web-mod.ods</a> I've tested 149 files obtained from the officeshots repository at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dav.officeshots.org/testsuites/">http://dav.officeshots.org/testsuites/</a>. I've tested the last 5.2 released version and the master version on Windows. Linux and Mac.In the table they are separated by a black vertical bar. Since there is no gold standard, I took the 5.2 version on Linux as a reference to which I've compared all other versions. Maybe that a different one should have been taken as the reference. The results are sorted, with the worst graded (largest differences) on top. To see the difference it is best to view the document overlay in the second column (labeled as THE). The first column (LND) shows the documents side-by-side, where just large differences are visible. 3-rd and 4-th columns show details. Observations: Rendering on MAC differs from that on Linux more than rendering on Windows. This seems to be partially caused by a slightly large line spacing on Mac. On Win and Lin letter 'g' touches table lines below which changes number of detected lines in the document. Examples: lines 8 and 9. It is unclear if the Mac version is OK or the Win&Lin. Another reason: incorrect drop caps in master on Mac, lines 3, 7 and 9 Improvements: lines 12, 13, 16, 17, 26-29, only on Windows, on Mac and LINUX were OK before Line 18: something has changed in master, which applies to all platforms. It is not related to the layout engine I think that each difference should be analyzed separately - sometimes it may be caused by the layout engine, but sometimes perhaps by something different. I will be glad to test a different set of files, which may be eventually more appropriate. If interpretation of the results in unclear, please ask. best Milos On 2016-10-25 01:15, Khaled Hosny wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:20161024231538.GD12613@macbook" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, I think the daily builds would be the better as they should have any new fixes: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/">http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/</a> To enable the new layout you need to set SAL_USE_COMMON_LAYOUT environment variable, to disable it you need to unset the variable (setting it to 0 will NOT disable it as the code just check the presence of the variable not its value). Regards, Khaled On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 01:40:19PM +0200, Milos Sramek wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, to be sure that I do everything right: The master build should be downloaded from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86_64/">http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86_64/</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/mac/x86_64/">http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/mac/x86_64/</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/">http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/x86_64/</a> The builds are from October 21-st - are they already the right ones? How to select the layout code? Which environment settings to use? best Milos On 2016-10-24 00:30, Khaled Hosny wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, Things I’d like to test at this point: * master with and without the new layout code activated on the three platforms. To see if we have any regressions or, hopefully, progressions. * master with the new layout code across platforms (to see if we really getting identical results as we hope). Regards, Khaled On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 09:18:01PM +0200, Milos Sramek wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, I've changed subject, since the discussion went in a different direction. Meanwhile I've discovered, that one can run OSX in a virtual machine :). That fits to my environment well. I've tested a few random files with a few random version on Linux, Mac and Windows. The results: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Emilos/roundtrip/odttest-mac-win/rslt-web.ods">http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/roundtrip/odttest-mac-win/rslt-web.ods</a> Brief explanantion: grade 0: pixel level identical grade 1: some differences, probably not visible ... Grade meaning is explained in a comment </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">is a link to pdf: </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">column LND: side by side column THE: overlay column HLPE: vertically aligned lines column FDE: vertically and horizontally aligned first sheet: print test: printed by tested version (name in header) and in reference version (LO43 on Linux) and compared second sheet: roundtrip test: saved to odt and printed by the reference version. No differences here Which versions should I test? The engines can be specified by environment variable - I can test that too. Is there a way how to install multiple versions in parallel on MAC? I can install only production and development one. best Milos On 2016-10-18 18:36, Khaled Hosny wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 09:06:42AM +0200, Milos Sramek wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Dear Khaled, do you think that extensive comparison of rendering of numerous documents with and without the new layout engine makes sense? If yes, I can run my tests in such a way to see if there are any differences. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">This would be extremely helpful, and more so if it can run on Windows or Mac. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">My test documents use latin script except for a few ones in Chinese. So, if you happen to have sume documents in Arabic I can add them to my test set. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">I’ve a random collection of documents somewhere, I’ll clean it up and send it to you. 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