<div dir="ltr"><div>Pedro,</div><div><br></div><div>you are absolute right. When you have a look at oxygen icons they were dropped cause there was no maintainer available since years. after they were dropped a new designer say he want to maintain.</div><div><br></div><div>In general a CLEAR statement why something will be dropped is better than have something that is broken.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Am Mi., 12. Sep. 2018 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho <<a href="mailto:mota.prego@gmail.com">mota.prego@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">That's all very nice but... Who fixes it?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It´s nice to vote to keep something in, but when that something is constantly breaking and there's minimal dev interest to fix or improve it (and it needs some dire improvements) why keep it then? Would any of the people in favor be willing to fix it and improve it? It's as simple as that.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:50 PM Halmai, Csongor <<a href="mailto:csongor@halmai.hu" target="_blank">csongor@halmai.hu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi All,<br>
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from my personal perspective, I don't use personas, I never did. But...<br>
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I taught hundreds of people, children and adults as well and I can say most people like "funny little harmless" things <br>
like this.<br>
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Just imagine how many users change their desktop background, even if they cannot see it the whole day. They simply just <br>
like personalize it. I think such a little thing that makes LO more attractive for the newcomers, should be kept.<br>
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If it breaks then it should be fixed.<br>
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Csongor<br>
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On 2018.09.12. 3:44, infinitytec wrote:<br>
> I'd have to agree with the idea of removing Personas. Why? Because they keep breaking. A couple of prebuilt solid themes would do the trick. Allow people to make and tweak themes as well, and even add images. It could, perhaps, still be compatible with the Persona system, but rely only on LO to function, as I know some issues have been caused on Mozilla's end.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who do not understand it.-A variation on Clarke's Third Law<br>
> -------- Original message --------From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker <<a href="mailto:jean-francois.nifenecker@laposte.net" target="_blank">jean-francois.nifenecker@laposte.net</a>> Date: 9/11/18 12:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "Роман К." <<a href="mailto:79045_79045@mail.ru" target="_blank">79045_79045@mail.ru</a>>, Pedro Rosmaninho <<a href="mailto:mota.prego@gmail.com" target="_blank">mota.prego@gmail.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:sbergman@redhat.com" target="_blank">sbergman@redhat.com</a>, <a href="mailto:design@global.libreoffice.org" target="_blank">design@global.libreoffice.org</a>, libreoffice-dev <<a href="mailto:libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org</a>>, "kainz.a" <<a href="mailto:kainz.a@gmail.com" target="_blank">kainz.a@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the<br>
> design meeting 2018-Sep-05<br>
> Le 06/09/2018 à 12:32, Роман К. a écrit :<br>
>> Hello, all. I agree with "killing" Firefox personas. And I like adding just 4-5 solid color themes.<br>
>><br>
> I've (manually) added the LibreOffice 4 Light Ambiance persona from<br>
> Firefox on my trainer PC<br>
> (<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/libreoffice-4-light-ambiance/?src=search" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/libreoffice-4-light-ambiance/?src=search</a>).<br>
> <br>
> Adding them is a chore: you've got to use the advanced mode because, as<br>
> already stated, the UI is not working anymore for a loooong time.<br>
> <br>
> After having doubts about personas (in fact I was very reluctant to<br>
> using them), I can tell that it draws attention during training sessions ;-)<br>
> <br>
> So, I'd strongly vote to keep (and fix) the personas thingy and against<br>
> having only solid themes.<br>
> <br>
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