<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> Hi Michael, <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">Just a little note of warning. The forum you're posting to is one of<br class=""> developers who typically intersperse their replies into edited-down<br class=""> E-mail contexts. They also read through the whole E-mail to ensure they<br class=""> got it all.<br class=""> <div class=""></div> </blockquote> <div class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> Thanks for the warning. So you saying we should not include the previous part of the conversation in our replies?</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">Sure, we do this each year - always fun; this year in Albania -<br class=""> starting early next week: do join us. Next year's location to be<br class=""> announced but will happen.</blockquote> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> Unfortunately, I have a big deadline which is due this Friday, so I am not going anywhere :( I’d very much like to join next year though!</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">Correct; so far. Always more to do there. We'd love help as well - if<br class=""> you have students interested in the more vexed engineering of<br class=""> re-assembling our aircraft in-flight =) the interesting (and partially<br class=""> solved) issue of more deeply unwinding the implicit intersections for<br class=""> more precise dependencies and a decent view of the dependency graph is<br class=""> something we'd love help with eg.<br class=""> </blockquote> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> Haha! Probably not how we should sell it to them though. It is surprisingly difficult to “sell” the idea to the students in projects when you</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> mention the word “spreadsheets”. Most people know what a spreadsheet is but do not always understand or appreciate the complex</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> wiring behind the scenes. Last time, we threw around a bit parallelism and compiler stuff in the hopes that it would attract some students.</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> I believe some students would be interested in helping out, especially on a real-world application. I’ll pass it on to my supervisor and</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> see if he has been approached by any students. As previously mentioned, my own time is unfortunately exceedingly scarce.</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">While Calc seems daunting, it's really only ~400k lines of code and<br class=""> attacking a reasonably well understood problem (vs. say writer layout =).</blockquote> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> That should be fine :) Especially if a student hones in on a specific feature and with the major refactoring that Calc has undergone.</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> Are the benchmarks from the OpenCL kernel code publicly available? We would love to have some idea of the performance boosts</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> on all the six spreadsheets.</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> Mvh/Best regards,</div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <font face="Consolas" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <b class="">Alexander Asp Bock</b>, PhD student</font></div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <a href="https://computerscience.wikit.itu.dk/" class=""><font face="Consolas" class="">Computer Science Department</font></a></div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <a href="http://en.itu.dk/" class=""><font face="Consolas" class="">IT University of Copenhagen</font></a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div><br class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class=""> <div class="">On 22 Sep 2018, at 19.19, Michael Meeks <<a href="mailto:michael.meeks@collabora.com" class="">michael.meeks@collabora.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class=""> <div class="">Hi Alexander,<br class=""> <br class=""> On 21/09/18 12:57, Alexander Bock wrote:<br class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">Yes, that’s very close :) Thanks! I can see there is also a tentative<br class=""> LibreOffice Conference<br class=""> </blockquote> <br class=""> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Sure, we do this each year - always fun; this year in Albania -<br class=""> starting early next week: do join us. Next year's location to be<br class=""> announced but will happen.<br class=""> <br class=""> <blockquote type="cite" class="">The threaded variant you refer to is the one from the slides right? As I<br class=""> understand, the interpreter is not fully parallel but runs cell<br class=""> arrays/formula groups in parallel.<br class=""> </blockquote> <br class=""> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Correct; so far. Always more to do there. We'd love help as well - if<br class=""> you have students interested in the more vexed engineering of<br class=""> re-assembling our aircraft in-flight =) the interesting (and partially<br class=""> solved) issue of more deeply unwinding the implicit intersections for<br class=""> more precise dependencies and a decent view of the dependency graph is<br class=""> something we'd love help with eg.<br class=""> <br class=""> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>While Calc seems daunting, it's really only ~400k lines of code and<br class=""> attacking a reasonably well understood problem (vs. say writer layout =).<br class=""> <br class=""> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>ATB,<br class=""> <br class=""> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>Michael.<br class=""> <br class=""> -- <br class=""> <a href="mailto:michael.meeks@collabora.com" class="">michael.meeks@collabora.com</a> <><, GM Collabora Productivity<br class=""> Hangout: <a href="mailto:mejmeeks@gmail.com" class="">mejmeeks@gmail.com</a>, Skype: mmeeks<br class=""> (M) +44 7795 666 147 - timezone usually UK / Europe<br class=""> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br class=""> </div> </body> </html>