<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message --------- De: Miguel Teixeira <<a href="mailto:miguel.teixeira@poli.ufrj.br" target="_blank">miguel.teixeira@poli.ufrj.br</a>> Date: seg., 16 de mar. de 2020 às 10:59 Subject: Re: LIBRASOffice - Vídeo - Solve MIT 2019 To: Olivier Hallot <<a href="mailto:olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org" target="_blank">olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org</a>> Cc: Ilmari Lauhakangas <<a href="mailto:ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoffice.org" target="_blank">ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoffice.org</a>>, Daniel Silva <<a href="mailto:daniel.lipe@poli.ufrj.br" target="_blank">daniel.lipe@poli.ufrj.br</a>>, Lidiana Souza dos Anjos <<a href="mailto:lidianasouza@poli.ufrj.br" target="_blank">lidianasouza@poli.ufrj.br</a>>, Fernando GonÃ§alves Severo <<a href="mailto:severo@cos.ufrj.br" target="_blank">severo@cos.ufrj.br</a>>, Henrique Luiz Cukierman <<a href="mailto:hcukier@cos.ufrj.br" target="_blank">hcukier@cos.ufrj.br</a>>, Pedro Braga <<a href="mailto:pedrohcbufrj@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrohcbufrj@gmail.com</a>> </div> <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hi, <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(36,36,36);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I apologize for<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(24,24,24);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> th<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(12,12,12);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">e delay in <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(24,24,24);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">answering.<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Current assistive technologies favor better accessibility for the blind people. There is no such thing as a "Braille language" or "Braille culture". A blind person does not need to communicate through a "different language" or adapt to a new language that depends directly on a sense that he does not have and a diferent culture. Before they learn to write, children, in general, learn to speak. For example, a blind person can learn to speak a language just as children learn by listening to other people speak. A deaf person often learns to communicate through a language only after older ages (for example, many deaf people in Brazil only learn LIBRAS after the age of 18). In the case of deaf people, there is a different language and culture. A simple literal translation of textual elements of the interface may not be such an interesting idea (but in some cases it can be useful). Here, there is an issue where, a simple adaptation of something that already exists (like the current accessibility APIs) can serve as a "quick fix", but that does not mean that it is the best option. <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I attached a PDF file talking a little more about this subject. <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best regards,<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Miguel.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 12:54, Olivier Hallot <<a href="mailto:olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org" target="_blank">olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org</a>> escreveu: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Olá Miguel It is fundamental to clarify why the current assistive technologies are unable to address the issue of the deafs. It has been asked in IRC and the response has not been seen. The project will be analyzed by knowledgeable people. Ilmari is in copy, please switch to English and keep Ilmarin the loop. Professor Henrique Cukierman should also be in the loop. Kind regards Olivier Em 12/03/2020 16:27, Miguel Teixeira escreveu: > Olá Olivier, > > Estamos animados com a sua mensagem. Vamos preparar um dossier para > financiamento do LIBRASOffice assim como fizemos para o MIT. > Vamos aproveitar boa parte do que fizemos para o MIT, mas mesmo assim, > não conseguiremos te entregar até o dia de hoje ou amanhã. Dou previsão > para entrega do dossier até a próxima quarta-feira, mas pode ser que já > esteja pronto, por exemplo, no próximo domingo. Existe algum problema em > entregarmos na próxima quarta-feira? > > Cordialmente, > Miguel Teixeira. > > > Em qui., 12 de mar. de 2020 às 07:00, Olivier Hallot > <<a href="mailto:olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org" target="_blank">olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org" target="_blank">olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org</a>>> > escreveu: > > Olá Miguel > > Vocês tem condições de preparar um dossier para financiamento do > LibrasOffice, assim como fizeram para o MIT? Trocaria MIT por TDF (The > Document Foundation). > > Creio que pode haver um caminho de financiamento a ser explorado, e a > experiencia do MIT pode ajudar a convencer. > > Será importante ter um cronograma de entregas, e programa de desembolso, > tamanho de equipe, bolsas e tudo mais. Vejo um horizonte de seis meses > de atividades para duas pessoas. > > OK? > Olivier > > > > > Em 11/03/2020 20:43, Miguel Teixeira escreveu: > > Olá Olivier, > > > > Segue o link do vídeo usado no Solve MIT - 2019 > > > > <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVAWjRV0dTw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVAWjRV0dTw</a> > > > > > > > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > <a href="http://tdf.io/joinus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tdf.io/joinus</a> > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 <a href="http://tdf.io/joinus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tdf.io/joinus</a> </blockquote></div> </div></div>