<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello,<div class="">I see there is a proposal for the budget 2020 to fix the macOS 10.15 notarization, and the longstanding issues in the ESC calls about fixing this bug and a save as behavior bug <a href="https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020#Fix_macOS_10.15_notarization" class="">https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020#Fix_macOS_10.15_notarization</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That is probably a very good idea to fix, as there’s been many bug reports about people being unable to save on Catalina.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I installed my old SSD on my MBP to test Catalina and these issues, and this is what I found:</div><div class=""> * An admin user has no problem to install LibreOffice, open the app, and save</div><div class=""> * A standard user (default for the non-main account) will not be able to save files, without granting “Full Disk Access”: <a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233" class="">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233</a></div><div class=""> * An admin user installing a language pack will not be able to save files, without granting “ Full Disk Access”: <a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025" class="">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025</a></div><div class=""> * The save as bug being tracked in the ESC is actually not a serious bug, just not being able to paste in the file name field. The two above should be tracked instead, and not <a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126638" class="">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126638</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As such, many new users to LO will be unable to get the program to work as they either are on a Standard account or are installing another language</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I suggest that the install page should be changed to include instructions to grant “Full Disk Access” in System Preferences -> Security and Privacy -> Privacy</div><div class="">This will help many users that currently have to google, use the ask portal, or give up if they’re not technically inclined</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t know, but it could be possible, that these save as bugs are related to the code signing / notarization issue, but I’m not a macOS developer.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The current code signing has also become more broken since Cloph looked at the issue last fall, as now the LibreOfficePython.framework reports modified files (all in various __pycache__ folders)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Eivind</div></body></html>