<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello,<div class="">one possible agenda item would be to add depreciation warning to old versions of macOS in 7.0?</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">We don’t necessarily have to drop support, but that gives more flexibility in the future as users have at least been warned</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Per my email I would suggest to bump the minimum supported version to macOS 10.11 (no hardware would lose compatibility from the currently supported 10.10)</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Then a depreciation warning should be put in for 10.12-13 as they will not receive security fixes past this fall (only 10.13 receive that currently)</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Apparently Skia has a backend that would use Metal, which is only supported by hardware capable of running 10.14 (oldest version to receive security fixes from this fall)</div><div class="">Not sure if this is relevant for macOS yet, but maybe in the future (hence depreciation warning)</div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-May/085069.html" class="">https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-May/085069.html</a></div><div class=""> </div><div class="">FYI: I tried the nextcloud link but get a message my "account is not provisioned" <div> <blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 May 2020, at 17:00, Miklos Vajna <<a href="mailto:vmiklos@collabora.com" class="">vmiklos@collabora.com</a>> wrote:</div> <div class=""><div class="">Hi, Prototype agenda below, bug metrics attached. Extra items appreciated either in this document or as a reply to this mail: <a href="https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/Common/esc-minutes" class="">https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/Common/esc-minutes</a> You can join jitsi here: https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/esc Regards, Miklos <<<< * Present: + None * Completed Action Items: + None * Pending Action Items: + Pranam, send the new-committer mail (Kendy) + fix Jenkins_Callgrind at some stage (Cloph) [ must be an env var mismatch, custom LD_LIBRARY_PATH causes problems ] + install java 9 on tinderboxes / jenkins slaves (tinderbox owners) * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 7.0 status: libreoffice-7-0 branch-off & feature freeze in ? weeks + UI freeze & string freeze after that + any late feature proposals? (Miklos) + ODF 1.3 support will be in by the deadline, probably (Thorsten) + 6.4 status: 6.4.4 rc2 is tagged, builds started + 6.3 status: no more releases planned + Remotes + Android viewer + Android tinderbox has problems, will probably fix it for next week + Online * Documentation (Olivier) * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 262(262) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months added 6(-6) 28(-5) 82(-4) 170(-4) commented 116(-6) 421(14) 1043(-21) 3434(8) removed 1(0) 4(1) 37(-1) 46(1) resolved 18(0) 57(4) 136(4) 343(12) + top 10 contributors: Heiko Tietze made 284 changes in 1 month, and 1987 changes in 1 year Telesto made 145 changes in 1 month, and 204 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 97 changes in 1 month, and 609 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 83 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year Kainz, Andreas made 53 changes in 1 month, and 435 changes in 1 year Dieter Praas made 46 changes in 1 month, and 523 changes in 1 year BogdanB made 34 changes in 1 month, and 58 changes in 1 year Xisco Faulí made 25 changes in 1 month, and 584 changes in 1 year Pedro made 15 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year Monastirsky, Maxim made 12 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 11(+0) import failure, 6(+0) export failures + ??? coverity issues + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + 6.4.1.2 38163(+2204) + 6.4.2.2 56228(+4374) + 6.4.3.2 30746(+9431) + 7.0.0.0 111(+85) * GSoC 2020 (Ilmari) + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/ + June 1, 2020 - July 3, 2020: Students work on their projects + 6 projects accepted + mentors: please reach out to your students to start community bonding (Thorsten) + expect: students present themselves on the dev list during the next week * Mentoring/easyhack update committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 97(-16) 151(-17) 158(-16) 170(-16) reviews 496(-162) 1738(128) 4322(-26) 22045(-196) merged 386(-125) 1768(31) 4687(-12) 19102(41) abandoned 18(-19) 103(-9) 287(-5) 1030(1) own commits 287(-121) 1484(3) 3831(-69) 15686(-14) review commits 106(-5) 432(50) 1135(19) 4650(12) contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 39(2) 69(7) 71(8) 73(8) reviews 1234(-172) 4432(172) 11044(114) 39554(376) merged 43(25) 105(31) 291(21) 841(25) abandoned 9(3) 33(5) 133(1) 546(8) own commits 53(20) 153(32) 425(31) 1082(34) review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) + easyHack statistics: needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 2(2) cleanup_comments 221(221) total 268(268) assigned 23(23) open 227(227) + top 10 contributors: Johnny_M made 44 patches in 1 month, and 60 patches in 1 year LibreOﬃciant made 32 patches in 1 month, and 130 patches in 1 year Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 50 patches in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 4 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year Marco A.G.Pinto made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year himajin100000 made 3 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year Szabolcs Tóth (NISZ) made 3 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year mesut çifci made 3 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year Nagy Tibor made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year + top 10 reviewers: Timar, Andras made 204 review comments in 1 month, and 1369 in 1 year Behrens, Thorsten made 170 review comments in 1 month, and 1276 in 1 year Michael Stahl made 130 review comments in 1 month, and 1482 in 1 year Nabet, Julien made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 2008 in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 1066 in 1 year Olivier Hallot made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 418 in 1 year Meeks, Michael made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 880 in 1 year Bergmann, Stephan made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 931 in 1 year Vajna, Miklos made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 1296 in 1 year Németh, László made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 535 in 1 year + Patches automatically abandoned: tdf#43157 Clean up DBG_ASSERT ( shubham goyal ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87430 tdf#38885: Remove CreateTextFromNode methods ( ABHISHEK PACHORKAR ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/89756 tdf#38885: Remove CreateTextFromNode methods ( ABHISHEK PACHORKAR ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/89938 tdf#131218 Assure standard mode at shell before goto content ( Jim Raykowski ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/90487 loplugin:unnecessaryparen improve to find paren around member expression ( Noel Grandin ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/90701 + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report: Eivind Samseth Tõnnov, Mihkel Vivien Geoffroy * Commit Access + None * Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten) + sleep 18 weeks + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently inactive * Jenkins / CI update (Christian) * l10n (Sophie) + Wrong translations in Formula names, etc. will be removed next week * Graphics architecture (Thorsten) * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture * skia / vulkan: to try it on master (Lubos) + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062 + 5 (+0) open bugs, 56 total (+1) * QA update (Xisco) + Please help flesh out the monthly reports: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief + UNCONFIRMED: 708 (-33) + enhancements: 79 (+4) + needsUXEval: 10 (+3) + haveBackTrace: 0 (+0) + needsDevAdvice: 12 (-1) + documentation: 12 (-6) + android: 4 (-1) + iOS: 0 (+0) + Online: 14 (-1) + Most pressing bugs: New: Old: Fixed: + New high severity bugs of the week: + :calculation error (see comment 12) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100475 + not a regression + Crash in: SfxShell::SetDisableFlags(SfxDisableFlags) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113273 + regression, not yet bisected + LibreCalc6.2: Opening a Calc with some formulas: It writes "adapt Row Height" which is taking ages to load! + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124098 + Vasily? + From version 6.1.x, some JPG images in Writer not printed + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129085 + Armin? + Wrong calculation after copy/paste of a formula + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132451 + Dennis will take a look + CRASH: With Ctrl+Down and 'Enable very large spreadsheets' active + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133033 + not a regression * QA stats + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +194 +47 (-198) overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Heiko Tietze 19 QA Administrators 14 Timur 14 Buovjaga 13 Caolán McNamara 13 Julien Nabet 12 NISZ LibreOffice Team 10 Xisco Faulí 8 Aron Budea 7 BogdanB 6 + top 10 bugs reporters: Telesto 33 NISZ LibreOffice Team 12 Xisco Faulí 7 Heiko Tietze 5 Michel Le Bihan 4 Steve Fanning 3 Alex Thurgood 2 Mihkel Tõnnov 2 Roman Kuznetsov 2 Timur 2 + top 10 bugs fixers: McNamara, Caolán 12 NISZ LibreOffice Team 6 Heiko Tietze 5 Nabet, Julien 4 2 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2 Attila Bakos 2 Budea, Áron 2 Ilmari Lauhakangas 2 Kainz, Andreas 2 + top 10 bugs confirmers: Xisco Faulí 34 Dieter Praas 22 BogdanB 20 Ilmari Lauhakangas 20 Heiko Tietze 13 *UNKNOWN* 8 Telesto 8 Ming Hua 6 Alex Thurgood 5 Foote, V Stuart 5 * Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"): + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI 6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0) 5.4 : 1/41 - 2 % (-2) 5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0) 5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0) 5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0) 5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0) 4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0) 4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0) 4.2 : 1/133 - 0 % (+0) 4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0) 4.0 : 3/82 - 3 % (+0) old : 6/245 - 2 % (+0) * Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected' + more accurate - down to a single commit. + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy + 737/4241 737/4219 728/4195 708/4160 704/4138 699/4119 713/4113 done by: Xisco Faulí 10 barakso.attila 4 Timur 3 Ilmari Lauhakangas 2 NISZ LibreOffice Team 1 Telesto 1 * Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected' + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS + 917/5096 915/5071 905/5045 883/5006 877/4982 870/4962 885/4957 done by: Xisco Faulí 11 barakso.attila 4 Timur 3 BogdanB 2 Ilmari Lauhakangas 2 NISZ LibreOffice Team 1 Telesto 1 * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 1180(+4) bugs open of 9660(+31) total 7(+2) high prio. done by: Telesto 12 Xisco Faulí 5 Ilmari Lauhakangas 3 Alex Thurgood 2 Roman Kuznetsov 1 BogdanB 1 Cor Nouws 1 Dieter Praas 1 Timur 1 Heiko Tietze 1 * ~Component count net * high severity regressions + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E Calc - 3(+1) Writer - 2(+1) Impress - 1(+0) LibreOffice - 1(+0) by OS: All - 4(+2) Linux - 1(+0) Mac OS X - 0(-1) Windows - 2(+1) * ~Component count net * all regressions + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i Writer: other - 338(+0) Calc - 226(+3) Impress - 135(+1) LibreOffice - 67(+1) Writer: docx filter - 54(-2) Crashes - 48(+0) Draw - 46(+0) Borders - 42(+1) UI - 41(+0) Writer: perf - 36(+0) Base - 31(-1) graphics stack - 28(+0) Writer: other filter - 27(+0) Writer: doc filter - 25(+0) Chart - 24(+1) Printing and PDF export - 24(+0) RTL - 22(+0) filters and storage - 22(+0) BASIC - 16(+0) framework - 2(+0) Formula Editor - 1(+1) Installation - 1(+0) sdk - 1(+0) <bug-metrics-2020-05-21.ods>_______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice </div></div></blockquote></div> </div></body></html>