<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="markdown-here-wrapper" data-md-url="" style=""> Hi Michael, thanks for your answer. <ol style="margin: 1.2em 0px;padding-left: 2em;"> <li style="margin: 0.5em 0px;"> My current understanding is that the proposed <code style="font-family: Consolas, Inconsolata, Courier, monospace;margin: 0px 0.15em; padding: 0px 0.3em; white-space: pre-wrap; font-weight: 550; background-color: rgba(119, 119, 119, 0.3); border-radius: 3px; display: inline;">com.sun.star.text.TextField.Bibliography</code> is the implementation for “Insert -> Table of Contents and Index -> Bibliography Entry” of LibreOffice Writer. Is that right? If it is, then it would mean that LibreOffice would manage the citation process (insert citations and bibliography). Right? We don’t want that. We want Zotero to manage it instead. We want Zotero to tell LibreOffice what an inline citation looks like and what a bibliography looks like. The alternative would be to import the Zotero database in LibreOffice, and then tell LibreOffice what the correct citation style is, and keep the database updated when the Zotero database changes, and keep the citation style updated when it changes. That looks too cumbersome. But maybe I’m failing to understand the process, I have no experience with LibreOffice citation management. I have always used Zotero. </li> <li style="margin: 0.5em 0px;"> <blockquote style="margin: 1.2em 0px;border-left: 4px solid rgb(51, 117, 221); padding: 0px 1em; color: rgb(119, 119, 119); quotes: none;"> the other option is, you could insert this with arbitrary content via the Fieldmark service, and since about version 7.3 this kind of works in the document model and can be stored as an ODF extension in addition to DOCX/RTF. </blockquote> </li> </ol> That sounds good, but the Fieldmark seems to lack documentation? <blockquote style="margin: 1.2em 0px;border-left: 4px solid rgb(51, 117, 221); padding: 0px 1em; color: rgb(119, 119, 119); quotes: none;"> however there is currently no implementation of expanding the fieldmark, that is, there is no code to evaluate the fieldmark command and overwrite the fieldmark result. </blockquote> I have no idea what that means. I’m sorry for my lack of knowledge. Does it mean that we can’t, from a LibreOffice Writer Java extension, retrieve the code of the fieldmark and tell LibreOffice what it should print instead of the code? If so, on one hand it is exactly what we need, on the other hand it seems it is already working? LibreOffice already shows the correct text, not the code. I believe it shows the text in the tag <code style="font-family: Consolas, Inconsolata, Courier, monospace;margin: 0px 0.15em; padding: 0px 0.3em; white-space: pre-wrap; font-weight: 550; background-color: rgba(119, 119, 119, 0.3); border-radius: 3px; display: inline;">w:fldChar</code>, not the one in the tag <code style="font-family: Consolas, Inconsolata, Courier, monospace;margin: 0px 0.15em; padding: 0px 0.3em; white-space: pre-wrap; font-weight: 550; background-color: rgba(119, 119, 119, 0.3); border-radius: 3px; display: inline;">w:instrTex</code> (which contains the code). Is that correct? I hereby attach a document with a Zotero inline citation in the Microsoft Word “Fields” format, for reference. We can take it as a reference implementation. Best. <div class="markdown-here-exclude"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/08/2022 12:06, Michael Stahl wrote: </div> </div> <div class="markdown-here-exclude"> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4103344a-b416-5134-7e90-a4a85d239d0a@libreoffice.org">On 16.08.22 09:03, Phillips Rogfield wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Hi Miklos, thank you very much for your answer! Let’s make sure we are on the same page here. Zotero is already able to write its citation with LibreOffice. To do so, it currently uses one of two methods, at user’s choice: (1) ReferenceMarks, which are NOT compatible with Microsoft Word (2) Bookmarks, which are SOMEHOW compatible with Microsoft Word, in the sense that you can’t put citations in footnotes, and they tend to break very easily. Instead, the Zotero plugin for Microsoft Word uses: (1) Fields, which are NOT compatible with LibreOffice (2) Bookmarks, see above. The point of this post is to allow the plugin for LibreOffice to use “Fields”. In particular, I have to use the UNO interface to write the following in the |word/document.xml| file inside a .docx file: |<w:r> <w:fldChar w:fldCharType="begin"/> </w:r> <w:r> <w:instrText xml:space="preserve"> [some text here] </w:instrText> </w:r> <w:r> <w:fldChar w:fldCharType="separate"/> </w:r> <w:r w:rsidRPr="007C09F6"> <w:rPr> <w:rFonts w:ascii="Calibri" w:hAnsi="Calibri" w:cs="Calibri"/> </w:rPr> <w:t> [some text here] </w:t> </w:r> <w:r> <w:fldChar w:fldCharType="end"/> </w:r> | would the |com.sun.star.text.TextField.Bibliography| interface allow me to write the above code? </blockquote> kind of, there is code to export it as a CITATION field in DocxAttributeOutput::EndField_Impl in sw/source/filter/ww8/docxattributeoutput.cxx. the other option is, you could insert this with arbitrary content via the Fieldmark service, and since about version 7.3 this kind of works in the document model and can be stored as an ODF extension in addition to DOCX/RTF. however there is currently 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