<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body style="zoom: 0%;"><div dir="auto">Phil,<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">You surely do NOT need my approval :-)<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">I was just asking since it seems consistent with other things in libre office.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Now I am curious about a field as the last thing in a document. :-)<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Had not considered using ESC to put the cursor out of a field, on the surface it feels like a really smart solution, but to be clear, if the devs choose to simply have an adjacent chair always be outside the field I would not complain, it would solve the end of document problem but makes it more difficult to append text in a field or deal with a one character looking field. <br><br></div> <div dir="auto">The zero length field... Uggg. Had not considered that one.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">I am very happy to see how thoroughly y'all are working to get a correct solution. <br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Andrew.<br><br></div> <div dir="auto">Get <a href="https://bluemail.me">BlueMail for Android</a> </div> <div class="gmail_quote" >On Aug 19, 2022, at 7:26 PM, Phillips Rogfield <<a href="mailto:thebudget72@gmail.com" target="_blank">thebudget72@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <p>Hello,</p> <p>You are right that by putting the cursor to the left it writes normal text. It only happens when you put the cursor to the right of the field.<br> </p> <p>It is not necessary that the field is the last thing in a file. It is sufficient it is the last thing in a paragraph. In this case you won't be able to insert text after the field without expanding the field. At least it will be not so simple. You will have to press Enter, space, left arrow, backspace, right arrow, and type.<br> </p> <p>I also noticed an exception: if you don't select anything, and do Insert -> Cross Reference -> Set Reference, type a name, press Insert and then Close, it will insert an empty reference (which I have no idea why it differs conceptually from a bookmark?). This empty reference will be not modifiable: nor by putting the cursor to the left nor to the right, the text of the reference will stay empty.</p> <p>So exception aside, I think maybe a good compromise would be that, if the user put the cursor on the right of a field, and press "Esc", it will start to type outside of the field, without expanding the field? Would that work?</p> <p>Best,</p> <p>Phil</p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 19/08/2022 16:04, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: <br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4029e24f-ab0c-4b58-91b0-e8fc2815757a@pitonyak.org"> <div dir="auto"> The general expected behavior in libre office, at least for me, is that if I place the cursor and start typing, that it will continue using the same attributes and properties of the character directly to the left of the cursor. So, if I have bold text, and I placed the cursor to the left of the bold text and I type, it will not be bold, it will be whatever is to the left of the cursor. If the cursor is immediately to the right of the bold text however then it will be bold. <br> <br> </div> <div dir="auto"> In this case, I assume, but have not verified or checked in anyway, references are a field. So the intent of this is to make certain that when the cursor is sitting directly to the left or right of, whatever is typed does not end up inside of that field. One side effect of this I expect, is that if you have a field with only one character you will have no way of modifying the text inside the field unless there is some special case when the text of the field is selected. I did not even check, can I select the text in a field? So what if the selection is partially in a field? <br> <br> </div> <div dir="auto"> I would never have considered this a bug, I would have just considered it an extension of expected behavior. The annoying part is that if the field is the last thing in a file you have no way to add text after the field unless you do it programmatically, but that is also true last I checked of text tables. <br> <br> </div> <div dir="auto"> I hope other contributors to comments in the bugs are correct that it is an easy fix, but I am skeptical. <br> <br> </div> <div dir="auto"> Get  <a href="https://bluemail.me" moz-do-not-send="true"> BlueMail for Android </a>   </div> <div class="gmail_quote"> On Aug 19, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Phillips Rogfield < <a href="mailto:thebudget72@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">thebudget72@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="markdown-here-wrapper" data-md-url="" style=""> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">Dear developers,</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">I would like to fix <a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81720#c22" moz-do-not-send="true">bug 81720</a>.</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">Basically when you insert a ReferenceMark, if you put the cursor at the edge of it (start or end), and type something, it will expand on the reference mark instead of writing it as a “normal text”.</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">You can find how to reproduce it in comment <a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81720#c22" moz-do-not-send="true">22</a>.</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">I have set up my environment, but I’m not sure where is the code that “checks” if something is a ReferenceMark, if anything.</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">Can you point me in the right direction, please?</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">Best,</p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;">Phil</p> <div title="MDH:PHA+RGVhciBkZXZlbG9wZXJzLDwvcD48cD5JIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gZml4IFtidWcgODE3MjBdKGh0dHBzOi8vYnVncy5kb2N1bWVudGZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnL3Nob3dfYnVnLmNnaT9pZD04MTcy MCNjMjIpLjwvcD48cD5CYXNpY2FsbHkgd2hlbiB5b3UgaW5zZXJ0IGEgUmVmZXJlbmNlTWFyaywg aWYgeW91IHB1dCB0aGUgY3Vyc29yIGF0IHRoZSBlZGdlIG9mIGl0IChzdGFydCBvciBlbmQpLCBh bmQgdHlwZSBzb21ldGhpbmcsIGl0IHdpbGwgZXhwYW5kIG9uIHRoZSByZWZlcmVuY2UgbWFyayBp bnN0ZWFkIG9mIHdyaXRpbmcgaXQgYXMgYSAibm9ybWFsIHRleHQiLjwvcD48cD5Zb3UgY2FuIGZp bmQgaG93IHRvIHJlcHJvZHVjZSBpdCBpbiBjb21tZW50IFsyMl0oaHR0cHM6Ly9idWdzLmRvY3Vt ZW50Zm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmcvc2hvd19idWcuY2dpP2lkPTgxNzIwI2MyMikuPC9wPjxwPkkgaGF2 ZSBzZXQgdXAgbXkgZW52aXJvbm1lbnQsIGJ1dCBJJ20gbm90IHN1cmUgd2hlcmUgaXMgdGhlIGNv ZGUgdGhhdCAiY2hlY2tzIiBpZiBzb21ldGhpbmcgaXMgYSBSZWZlcmVuY2VNYXJrLCBpZiBhbnl0 aGluZy48L3A+PHA+Q2FuIHlvdSBwb2ludCBtZSBpbiB0aGUgcmlnaHQgZGlyZWN0aW9uLCBwbGVh c2U/PC9wPjxwPkJlc3QsPC9wPjxwPlBoaWw8YnI+PC9wPg==" aria-hidden="true" style="height:0;width:0;max-height:0;max-width:0;overflow:hidden;font-size:0;padding:0;margin:0;"> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html>