<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Roger, hi all (CCed to the l10n list, too),</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, this is a regression of the thesaurus, related to the carelessly updated English spelling dictionaries. I filed a bug for the problem now, suggesting also a quick solution:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167649" target="_blank">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167649</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your bug report!</div><div><br></div><div>More information:</div><div><br></div><div>The word “peered”, like other affixed word forms, is missing from WordNet, which is the source of the English thesaurus of LibreOffice. LibreOffice was able to handle this problem by stemming and affixation, using spelling dictionaries extended with morphological data, which allowed to suggest affixed forms, e.g. here: “looked” for “peered” (but not “gazed”, “glanced”, “peeked” etc. or “examined”, “inspected” suggested by chatGPT, which contains much more data, including synonyms, than WordNet).</div><div><br></div><div>As the author of the morphological extension of the English dictionaries, also
as the author of the related code parts in the spell checker and
thesaurus libraries, my aim was to create a reference implementation for other languages. In fact, this was a voluntary contribution, by-product of developing the Hungarian thesaurus, supported by the FSF.hu Foundation, Hungary.</div><div><br></div><div>I was sorry that my work was deleted by mistake (kept only by the git repository), but this is not unprecedented. For example, the other thing that was similarly deleted, and which I regret very much, is the old style manager interface that allows copying single paragraph etc. styles between templates or documents.</div><div><br></div><div>For l10n, I repeated some information about developing thesauri with stemming and affixation in other languages, because it seems, the original archive of the OpenOffice.org Lingucomponent mailing list is not very accessible:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167649#c2">https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167649#c2</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for the bug report again! Hopefully thanks to this, the reported problem will be fixed soon, and maybe we'll see further improvements in English and in other languages supported by LibreOffice!</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>László</div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Roger Squier <<a href="mailto:rogersquier@gmail.com" target="_blank">rogersquier@gmail.com</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2025. júl. 19., Szo, 17:26):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">I
hope I am sending this email to the right place. It is not about
a 'bug'; it is about improving the quality of the Thesaurus in
Writer 25.2.5.2.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Having
migrated from MS Word to Libre Office Writer, I’ve found the
English Thesaurus included in Writer hopelessly inadequate.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Would
it be possible for the developers create or find a better
Thesaurus?</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Just
as an example, a search for a synonym for ‘peered'’ in Writer
produced the result shown in the attached file. The Thesaurus
appears to not understand English grammar. 'Peered' is a past
participle of the verb To Peer, e.g. To Look; it is not a noun.
This result is similar to some of the other results I get when I
want to find a synonym for a word in Writer. I have even
wondered if Writer Thesaurus is going by the sound of a word and
not the grammar.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">See
for example File Hippo: <i><a href="https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/peered.html" target="_blank">https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/peered.html</a></i></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Surely
Writer Thesaurus can be improved significantly.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Regards</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.008px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Rwsjr</span></p>
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