[Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 13.0.0-rc1

Jason Ekstrand jason at jlekstrand.net
Thu Oct 20 15:20:53 UTC 2016


On Oct 20, 2016 8:11 AM, "Emil Velikov" <emil.l.velikov at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 19 October 2016 at 20:31, Jason Ekstrand <jason at jlekstrand.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov at gmail.com
>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 19 October 2016 at 19:50, Kai Wasserb├Ąch <kai at dev.carbon-project.org
>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hey Emil,
> >> > just curious why you did the revert
> >> >
> >> > (<
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?h=13.0&id=2ced8eb136528914e1bf4e000dea06a9d53c7e04
>).
> >> > Wouldn't distros just set --disable-vulkan-icd-full-driver-path (I
know
> >> > I'm
> >> > doing that for Multi-Arch compatibility for my local builds)?
> >> >
> >> Yes they can, yet they shouldn't need to bother to begin with, since
> >> the code itself is not aimed at deployment ;-)
> >
> >
> > What code isn't aimed at deployment?
> >
> > Don't just go reverting commits in the release branch on your own
authority
> > with no discussion.  If that flag is causing problems for distros and
> > packagers, let's hear from them and they can tell us what they need.
> >
> I believe I mentioned it before - due to the high traffic on mesa-dev@
> little-to-no distro maintainers get to read upon decisions and/or cast
> their opinion. In most cases they'll just workout something locally
> and not bother (-ETIME or other) prodding upstream.
>
> I believe I explained it in length why the original and follow up are
> bad idea, suggested two alternative solutions and a Nack on the patch.
> Only to get all that fall though the cracks :-\
>
> > Also, it's not in there for developers.  It's in there for people who
want
> > to do a local build and have "make install" work somewhat correctly.
> Doing `make install' to a non-default prefix falls in the
> development/testing category.
>
> In either case using  LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a must _regardless_ of the
> software that one's building/testing. That is unless you're using
> chroot :-)

./configure --prefix=$HOME/.local
make
make install

Works today without LD_LIBRARY_PATH

> > They're free to do that local build from a release branch or a tarball
and
> > it should still work.
>
>
> >  Also, you're making piles of pain for packagers who
> > now have a configure flag that works in 12.0 git and 13.0 git but in
13.0
> > release it is gone.
> Please don't get me wrong, but I think you're over-dramatizing this a
> little. Can you be specific where this has caused/will cause pain ?
>
> I regularly check what distros do and try to steer them as things get
> rocky. The revert helps exactly this - it removes the "pain" that it
> would cause to distros since there's a) new option and b) the default
> value of it is _against_ their preference.
>
> Thanks
> Emil
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