[Mesa-dev] Mesa 18.0.0 release plan

[Nicolai Hähnle]

On 17.01.2018 01:23, Jordan Justen wrote:
> On 2018-01-16 13:57:37, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:18:13 AM PST Emil Velikov wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As you've know the Mesa 18.0.0 release plan has been available for a while
>>> on the mesa3d.org website [1].
>>>
>>> In case you've missed it here it is:
>>>
>>>   Jan 19 2018 - Feature freeze/Release candidate 1
>>>   Jan 26 2018 - Release candidate 2
>>>   Feb 02 2018 - Release candidate 3
>>>   Feb 09 2018 - Release candidate 4/final release
>>>
>>> This gives us half a week until the branch point.
>>>
>>> As this is shorter notice than usual, I'm open to adjusting the schedule by a
>>> week. Do let me know ASAP, if we should go that route.
>>>
>>> As always - do list features/sets that you'd like to see merged. Thus we can
>>> all have a clear idea and prioritise accordingly.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Emil
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html
>>
>> A few observations and some questions...
>>
>> Although 17.3 was branched in late October, 17.3.0 wasn't released until
>> December 8th - about 6 weeks ago.  17.3.x also shipped with a pretty
>> catastrophic DRI3 bug that caused tons of applications to segfault,
>> which was fixed by 897c54d522ab960a879b763a15e489f630c491ee, but that
>> hasn't yet made it into a shipping 17.3.x release.  Arguably, I think
>> 17.3.3 is going to be the first usable 17.3.x release.
>>
>> So...is it too early to branch for 18.0?
>>
>> - Have distros picked up 17.3.x yet?
>> - Is there anything in master that people are excited about shipping?
>> - There are about 2 months of work since the 17.3.x branch point
>>    (half of October, all of November, about half of December because
>>    so many people were on holidays).
>>
>> I'm wondering if a mid-February branch point and March release would
>> make more sense, just to space them out.
> 
> Related to this, what are the cutoffs for upcoming distro releases?
> 
> I'm not sure for Fedora 28. Maybe Beta Freeze on March 6?
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule
> 
> It looks like March 1st for Ubuntu 18.04.
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule

To be honest, I'm a fan of the predictable time-based releases and would 
rather not do ad-hoc monkeying around with schedules as a matter of 
principle. With the dates above and a conservative approach (there may 
be additional RCs...), we don't have much wiggle room anyway.

If people want to slow down generally to 3 releases systematically, 
that's fine, although 3 releases are probably harder to sync up to 
6-month schedules.

Cheers,
Nicolai


> 
> -Jordan
> 
>> Then again, I've also
>> suggested doing 3 releases a year in the past, since I thought they were
>> too close together.  So, if people disagree, I'm totally fine with that.
>>
>> Just asking the question :)
>>
>> --Ken
>>
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