[Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa 17.3.x release problems and process improvements

[Kenneth Graunke]

On Friday, March 9, 2018 12:12:28 PM PDT Mark Janes wrote:
[snip]
> I've been doing this for Intel.  Developers are on the hook to fix their
> bugs, but you can't make them do it.  They have many pressures on them,
> and a maintainer can't make the call as to whether a rendering bug is
> more important than day-1 vulkan conformance, for example.
> 
> We could heighten the transparency of what is blocking the build by
> publicizing the authors of bisected blocking bugs to Phoronix, which
> might get things moving.

I hope you're being sarcastic here, or else I'm misunderstanding your
proposal.  Public shaming of developers who create bugs has absolutely
no place in the Mesa community, IMHO.  It would foster the kind of toxic
community that none of us want to be a part of.

Sometimes, people who create bugs are the very people that work the
hardest, who the project may not even exist without.  Would you want
to chew out someone for creating a bug in a Vulkan driver when...if it
weren't for that person, you wouldn't have a Vulkan driver at all?  Or,
maybe they caused a couple bad bugs...but also fixed hundreds of them.

Other times, they're new contributors or volunteers who do this, not as
their day job.  Frankly, those people are under no obligation to help us
at all, so we need to thank them and appreciate the time and effort they
spend - and give them a hand fixing things when they're too busy, or
don't have the relevant hardware or skill to track down a regression.

It's easy to be pissed off when there are bugs, and things seem to not
be making progress, but let's try and keep things positive and work
together to make Mesa the best we can.

--Ken
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