[Mesa-dev] Gitlab migration

Jason Ekstrand jason at jlekstrand.net
Sat May 26 15:13:40 UTC 2018

On May 25, 2018 23:43:33 Marek Olšák <maraeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Daniel Stone <daniel at fooishbar.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm going to attempt to interleave a bunch of replies here.
> On 23 May 2018 at 20:34, Jason Ekstrand <jason at jlekstrand.net> wrote:
>> The freedesktop.org admins are trying to move as many projects and services
>> as possible over to gitlab and somehow I got hoodwinked into spear-heading
>> it for mesa.  There are a number of reasons for this change.  Some of those
>> reasons have to do with the maintenance cost of our sprawling and aging
>> infrastructure.  Some of those reasons provide significant benefit to the
>> project being migrated:
> Thanks for starting the discussion! I appreciate the help.
> To be clear, we _are_ migrating the hosting for all projects, as in,
> the remote you push to will change. We've slowly staged this with a
> few projects of various shapes and sizes, and are confident that it
> more than holds up to the load. This is something we can pull the
> trigger on roughly any time, and I'm happy to do it whenever. When
> that happens, trying to push to ssh://git.fd.o will give you an error
> message explaining how to update your SSH keys, how to change your
> remotes, etc.
> cgit and anongit will not be orphaned: they remain as push mirrors so
> are updated simultaneously with GItLab pushes, as will the GitHub
> mirrors. Realistically, we can't deprecate anongit for a (very) long
> time due to the millions of Yocto forks which have that URL embedded
> in their build recipes. Running cgit alongside that is fairly
> low-intervention. And hey, if we look at the logs in five years' time
> and see 90% of people still using cgit to browse and not GitLab,
> that's a pretty strong hint that we should put effort into keeping it.
> Well, I don't know what people are talking about. A cgit commit log is a 
> tight table with 5 columns with information. I can't find anything like 
> that in GitLab. All I could find is this:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/jekstrand/mesa/commits/master
> The elements are too large and don't have much information. Why would you 
> have the author name on another line when you could add another column 
> instead? There is a lot of unused screen space. And why having avatars in 
> the commit log. It's not Facebook.
> Then there is the project Overview page. It mostly just shows files in the 
> top level directory. Compare it with cgit where the Overview page looks 
> like a, guess what, overview!

GitLab's "branches" page is sort of the same thing but with GitLab's more 
chunky style.  They make the same choice as GitHub to have the homepage be 
there for browser and the project's readme.  (You have to name it README.md 
for that to work).  It makes sense on GitHub because that's all many 
projects have for a home page.  Given that most Mesa people who go to the 
web view are doing so to find a particular branch and read the commit log, 
it may not be the optimal choice.

> OK, that was harsh, but there is a lot of truth to it. I guess GitLab is 
> great for admins and I get that. Speaking of the web UI, at least the 
> read-only view is impressively unimpressive.

Perhaps part of the reason why I like the GitLab UI so much is because I'm 
a crazy person who regularly uses it from my phone.  When you open the two 
on a mobile device, the difference in usability is night and day.  I also 
spend a lot of time in the file viewer and really like syntax highlighting.

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