[Mesa-dev] [PATCH 2/2] meson: upgrade minimum meson version

Tue Apr 9 12:33:50 UTC 2019

Hi,

On 9.4.2019 14.16, Ernst Sjöstrand wrote:
> For people building newer Mesa pip3 install --user meson is quite a
> lot better and more accessible.

Nice thing with backports is that they get upgraded when one upgrades 
rest of the distro.

It's probably less of an issue with Python than some other things, but 
having local installs of things that are also available from distro 
itself can cause nasty issues (e.g. forgetting local install of libdrm 
to /usr/local/lib can mean that your desktop fails after you upgrade 
your distro).

> Not a solutions for distributions that want to backport newer Mesa etc though.
> 
> Those build dependencies look more like runtime dependencies btw,
> Meson is just pure python right?

They were Meson package build deps. Run-time deps are just ninja & python:
	https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/meson

My guess is that build configures Meson to the distro, and what's 
available in it.  Dylan?

	- Eero

> Regards
> //Ernst
> 
> Den tis 9 apr. 2019 kl 13:00 skrev Eero Tamminen <eero.t.tamminen at intel.com>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 9.4.2019 0.22, Dylan Baker wrote:
>>> It would be nice if people wouldn't try to build bleeding edge mesa on a 12 year
>>> old distro :D. Unfortunately as Eero ppoints out they do. I'd like to bump the
>>> meson version to 0.47 in the future for some of the other features it adds
>>> (automatically figuring out the dependencies for pkg-config, feature options,
>>> etc), but that'll have to wait a bit for distros to catch up.
>>
>> Currently at least Meson 0.45 is required, which I think to rule out any
>> 12 year old distros :D.  Requiring Meson 0.47 would rule out 2 year old
>> distro releases.
>>
>> If somebody can test latest stable distros to see they work if one just
>> takes newer Meson binary package from newer version of the distro, maybe
>> Mesa could add instruction for users to do that?
>>
>> In Ubuntu 18.04 those instructions would be:
>> - replace "bionic" in /etc/apt/sources.list temporarily with "cosmic"
>> - do "sudo apt update && sudo apt install meson"
>> - revert /etc/apt/sources.list back to bionic
>>
>> In Debian stable/stretch (which has Meson v0.37):
>> - enable "stretch-backports" repo to install Meson (v0.49)
>>
>>
>>          - Eero
>>
>> PS. reason why I say Meson binary packages from newer distro version
>> need to work is that I think expecting users to build also new Meson
>> version from source is not realistic as it seems to need huge amount
>> of esoteric build dependencies:
>>          https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/cosmic/meson
>>
>>> We've actually talked about removing these deprecation warnings in cases where
>>> the minimum version doesn't have the recommended replacement, but that's hard.
>>>
>>> Dylan
>>>
>>> Quoting Eero Tamminen (2019-04-08 04:16:49)
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 6.4.2019 11.44, Khaled Emara wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, I though LTS distros used old versions of mesa.
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>> Those *provide* older Mesa version, so naturally people want to build
>>>> latest Mesa on them (especially if they've just bought HW that isn't
>>>> supported by distro version of Mesa).  Building would fail if Mesa would
>>>> require newer Meson version than the one in the distro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>           - Eero
>>>>
>>>> PS. On Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, one can install 0.47 Meson binary package
>>>> from 18.10, it works fine.  Maybe something similar can be done also
>>>> on other LTS distros.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 12:38 AM Dylan Baker <dylan at pnwbakers.com
>>>>> <mailto:dylan at pnwbakers.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       Quoting Khaled Emara (2019-04-05 11:28:28)
>>>>>        > Upgraded meson's minimum version from 0.45 to 0.47
>>>>>        > Version 0.47 is required to use build_always_stale
>>>>>        > ---
>>>>>        >  meson.build | 2 +-
>>>>>        >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        > diff --git a/meson.build b/meson.build
>>>>>        > index 2c98e9e18a9..454928e244a 100644
>>>>>        > --- a/meson.build
>>>>>        > +++ b/meson.build
>>>>>        > @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ project(
>>>>>        >      [find_program('python', 'python2', 'python3'),
>>>>>       'bin/meson_get_version.py']
>>>>>        >    ).stdout(),
>>>>>        >    license : 'MIT',
>>>>>        > -  meson_version : '>= 0.45',
>>>>>        > +  meson_version : '>= 0.47',
>>>>>        >    default_options : ['buildtype=debugoptimized',
>>>>>       'b_ndebug=if-release', 'c_std=c99', 'cpp_std=c++11']
>>>>>        >  )
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        > --
>>>>>        > 2.21.0
>>>>>        >
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>>>>>
>>>>>       Unfortunately we can't bump the minimum version at the moment, there
>>>>>       are a
>>>>>       couple of LTS distros we need support for that only ship 0.45.x
>>>>>       currently. As an
>>>>>       upstream meson dev, we have no time table in place for the removal of
>>>>>       build_always.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Dylan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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