[Mesa-dev] Fwd: [Mesa-users] Issues with removal of classic OSMesa
Dave Airlie
airlied at gmail.com
Thu Jan 7 08:36:43 UTC 2021
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 17:31 Andreas Fänger, <a.faenger at e-sign.com> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
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> sounds good. Is there a particular reason not to port the softpipe anisotropic
> filter implementation (or from swrast, they are almost identical)?
> Wouldn’t that be easier to implement as it is based on the gallium
> infrastructure already?
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I hadn't really looked at mesa I had thought the aniso impl weren't
conformant, I'll look again next week when I get back to work.
Dave.
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> Andreas
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> *Von:* mesa-dev <mesa-dev-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org> *Im Auftrag von *Dave
> Airlie
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2021 05:56
> *An:* Brian Paul <brianp at vmware.com>
> *Cc:* mesa-dev <mesa-dev at lists.freedesktop.org>;
> mesa-users at lists.freedesktop.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [Mesa-dev] Fwd: [Mesa-users] Issues with removal of
> classic OSMesa
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> I have some plans nothing firm to add some sort of aniso to llvmpipe. I
> was considering porting code from swiftshader, maybe I can bump it up the
> priority list.
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> Dave.
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> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021, 06:02 Brian Paul, <brianp at vmware.com> wrote:
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [Mesa-users] Issues with removal of classic OSMesa
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 12:56:04 +0100
> From: Andreas Fänger <a.faenger at e-sign.com>
> To: mesa-users at lists.freedesktop.org
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> Hi,
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> I've just seen that classic OSMesa has been removed (again) from Mesa3D
> a few weeks ago with this commit "mesa: Retire classic OSMesa".
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> We are still actively using classical OSMesa for high quality rendering
> of still images in a headless environment with no GPU support
> (server-based rendering on windows and linux)
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> Unfortunately, none of the alternative software renderers provide all
> the features that we require, which is antialiasing and anisotropic
> filtering. The current state is (correct me if I'm wrong)
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> * softpipe: anisotropic filtering is supported, no antialiasing
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> * llvmpipe: no anisotropic filtering, has MSAA
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> * openswr: no anisotropic filtering, has MSAA, no OSMesa interface (?)
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> We had hoped that classical OSMesa is only removed when there is a full
> replacement after the discussions in 2016 when OSMesa was about to be
> removed for the first time
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> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2016-March/109665.html
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> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-users/2016-March/001132.html
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> and the commit that reverted the removal
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> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=9601815b4be886f4d92bf74916de98f3bdb7275c
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> Are there any plans to enhance the renderers so that at least one of
> them is providing both anisotropic filtering and antialiasing?
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> As far as I know, anisotropic texture filtering is also one of the
> OpenGL 4.6 requirements.
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> In 2016 I was told that there are only very few developers involved in
> llvmpipe and that chances are not high that someone is going to port the
> softpipe anisotropic filtering implementation as llvmpipe is much more
> complex. Is there any change in that situation?
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