<div dir="ltr">+1<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:36 PM Rob Clark <<a href="mailto:robdclark@gmail.com">robdclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:02 PM Kenneth Graunke <<a href="mailto:kenneth@whitecape.org" target="_blank">kenneth@whitecape.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> As a lot of you have probably noticed, Bugzilla seems to be getting a<br>
> lot of spam these days - several of us have been disabling a bunch of<br>
> accounts per day, sweeping new reports under the rug, hiding comments,<br>
> etc. This bug spam causes emails to be sent (more spam!) and then us<br>
> to have to look at ancient bugs that suddenly have updates.<br>
><br>
> I think it's probably time to consider switching away from Bugzilla.<br>
> We are one of the few projects remaining - Mesa, DRM, and a few DDX<br>
> drivers are still there, but almost all other projects are gone:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi</a><br>
><br>
> Originally, I was in favor of retaining Bugzilla just to not change too<br>
> many processes all at once. But we've been using Gitlab a while now,<br>
> and several of us have been using Gitlab issues in our personal repos;<br>
> it's actually pretty nice.<br>
><br>
> Some niceities:<br>
><br>
> - Bug reporters don't necessarily need to sign up for an account<br>
> anymore. They can sign in with their Gitlab.com, Github, Google,<br>
> or Twitter accounts. Or make one as before. This may be nicer for<br>
> reporters that don't want to open yet another account just to report<br>
> an issue to us.<br>
><br>
> - Anti-spam support is actually maintained. Bugzilla makes it near<br>
> impossible to actually delete garbage, Gitlab makes it easier. It<br>
> has a better account creation hurdle than Bugzilla's ancient captcha,<br>
> and Akismet plug-ins for handling spam.<br>
><br>
> - The search interface is more modern and easier to use IMO.<br>
><br>
> - Permissions & accounts are easier - it's the same unified system.<br>
><br>
> - Easy linking between issues and MRs - mention one in the other, and<br>
> both get updated with cross-links so you don't miss any discussion.<br>
><br>
> - Milestone tracking<br>
><br>
> - This could be handy for release trackers - both features people<br>
> want to land, and bugs blocking the release.<br>
><br>
> - We could also use it for big efforts like direct state access,<br>
> getting feature parity with fglrx, or whatnot.<br>
><br>
> - Khronos switched a while ago as well, so a number of us are already<br>
> familiar with using it there.<br>
><br>
> Some cons:<br>
><br>
> - Moving bug reports between the kernel and Mesa would be harder.<br>
> We would have to open a bug in the other system. (Then again,<br>
> moving bugs between Mesa and X or Wayland would be easier...)<br>
<br>
If that was a concern, we could setup a kernel gitlab project that has<br>
an empty git repository (at least until we are ready to move drm git<br>
tree).<br>
<br>
> What do people think? If folks are in favor, Daniel can migrate<br>
> everything for us, like he did with the other projects. If not,<br>
> I'd like to hear what people's concerns are.<br>
><br>
<br>
yes, please, let's move!<br>
<br>
BR,<br>
-R<br>
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