<html>Hi Axel and Martin. I think dropping nine would greatly reduce usefulness of nv30, nv50, r300, r600 and crocus, so I'm +1 for idea of amber, or maybe I should say +1 for idea of separate repository with older stuff (also with drivers). IIRC some time ago there was a discussion of dropping legacy drivers and Erik suggested maintaining interface in just good enough state to be able side-load mesa's main drivers and legacy stuff. As person that loves tinkering with older hardware I can still see some edge cases, and I have to say Gallium Nine was driving force behind work on r300. Thanks for amazing work, Filip. PS Dune would be cool name. :D W dniu: Czwartek, Sierpień 22, 2024 09:33 CEST, Martin Roukala <martin.peres@free.fr> napisał(a): <blockquote type="cite" cite="fc7c848b-654b-4ed4-9fbe-eaac08ce162a@free.fr">On 8/22/24 1:11 AM, Axel Davy wrote: > Hi there. Hi Axel! > > I think this will surprise no one here, but here we are. I think it's > time for Gallium Nine to end. > > Long story short, Gallium Nine was a success. Its purpose is fulfilled. > But there is not enough reasons to keep it around. > > Gallium Nine doesn't have enough users anymore and it totally makes > sense why. DXVK just works. Gallium Nine might get you a little less CPU > usage or a few more fps, maybe. > But as PCs have caught up, and users have moved to shinier games with > newer APIs, Gallium Nine is not relevant in the current landmark. > > There has been no new volunteers to work on gallium nine for a long > time, and regressions take a long time to get noticed. > Not breaking Nine puts effort on driver devs. > > For all these reasons, unless there is vigorous protestations here, I > will propose a PR to remove gallium nine. > > Thanks, > > Axel Davy > > > ===== Long Version ===== [...] > > Thank you ! > > Axel Davy No, thank YOU for your dedication and I wholeheartedly agree with what you said about Nine having been a success, even if it has lost its relevance! I think Gallium Nine's place is probably in the Amber branch, for historical purposes and users who still need it to work on their now-old hardware. Modern-ish hardware will be better served with DXVK and if not, the drivers should be improved to support DXVK's needs. In any case, I hope you will remain in our community and hopefully even pick up a new project that will be exciting to you and maybe to the community at large! Your expertise is appreciated :) Thanks, Martin</blockquote> </html>