[Nouveau] CUDA fixed VA allocations and sparse mappings

Ilia Mirkin imirkin at alum.mit.edu
Tue Jul 7 08:29:38 PDT 2015


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Andrew Chew <achew at nvidia.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am currently looking into ways to support fixed virtual address allocations
> and sparse mappings in nouveau, as a step towards supporting CUDA.
>
> CUDA requires that the GPU virtual address for a given buffer match the
> CPU virtual address.  Therefore, when mapping a CUDA buffer, we have to have
> a way of specifying a particular virtual address to map to (we would ask that
> the CPU virtual address be used).  Currently, as I understand it, the allocator
> implemented in nvkm/core/mm.c, used to provision virtual addresses, doesn't
> allow for this (but it's very easy to modify the allocator slightly to allow
> for this, which I have done locally in my experiments).
>
> In addition, the CUDA use case typically involves allocating a big chunk of
> address space ahead of time as a way to reserve that chunk for future CUDA
> use.  It then maps individual buffers into that address space as needed.
> Currently, the virtual address allocation is done during buffer mapping, so
> in order to support these sparse mappings, it seems to me that the virtual
> address allocation and buffer mapping need to be decoupled into separate
> operations.
>
> My current strawman proposal for supporting this is to introduce two new ioctls
> DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_AS_ALLOC and DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_AS_FREE, that look roughly
> like this:
>
> #define NOUVEAU_AS_ALLOC_FLAGS_FIXED_OFFSET 0x1
> struct drm_nouveau_as_alloc {
>         uint64_t pages;     /* in, pages */
>         uint32_t page_size; /* in, bytes */
>         uint32_t flags;     /* in */
>         uint64_t offset;    /* in/out, byte address */
> };
>
> struct drm_nouveau_as_free {
>         uint64_t offset;    /* in, byte address */
> };
>
> These ioctls just call into the allocator to allocate a range of addresses,
> resulting in a struct nvkm_vma that tracks that allocation (or releases the
> struct nvkm_vma back into the virtual address pool in the case of the free
> ioctl).  If NOUVEAU_AS_ALLOC_FLAGS_FIXED_OFFSET is set, offset specifies the
> requested virtual address.  Otherwise, an arbitrary address will be
> allocated.

Well, this can't just be an address space. You still need bo's, if
this is to work with nouveau -- it has to know when to swap things in
and out, when they're used, etc. (and/or move between VRAM and GART
and system/swap). I suspect that your target here are the GK20A and
GM20B chips which don't have dedicated VRAM, but the ioctl's need to
work for everything.

Would it be sufficient to extend NOUVEAU_GEM_NEW or create a
NOUVEAU_GEM_NEW_FIXED or something? IOW, why do have to separate the
concept of a GEM object and a VM allocation?

>
> In addition to this, a way to map/unmap buffers is needed.  Ordinarily, one
> would just use DRM_IOCTL_PRIME_FD_TO_HANDLE to import and map a dmabuf into
> gem.  However, this ioctl will try to grab the virtual address range for this
> buffer, which will fail in the CUDA case since the virtual address range
> has been reserved ahead of time.  So we perhaps introduce a set of ioctls
> to map/unmap buffers on top of an already existing virtual address allocation.

My suggestion above is an alternative to this, right? I think dmabufs
tend to be used for sharing between devices. I suspect there's more
going on here that I don't understand though -- I assume the CUDA
use-case is similar to the HSA use-case -- being able to build up data
structures that point to one another on the CPU and then process them
on the GPU? Can you detail a specific use-case perhaps, including the
interactions with the GPU and its address space?

Jérôme, I believe you were doing the HSA kernel implementation.
Perhaps you'd have some feedback on this proposal?

Cheers,

  -ilia


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