[Nouveau] NVIDIA signed firmware release format

Ilia Mirkin imirkin at alum.mit.edu
Thu Feb 18 05:54:31 UTC 2016


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot at nvidia.com> wrote:
> On 02/18/2016 02:37 PM, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot at nvidia.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/18/2016 12:47 PM, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Alexandre Courbot
>>>> <acourbot at nvidia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> This email is to start a discussion about the format into which NVIDIA
>>>>> firmware is going to be provided. If you had a look at the
>>>>> linux-firmware
>>>>> branch we pushed earlier [1] you may already have an idea of the
>>>>> general
>>>>> organization, but this email is to discuss more specific details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Official firmware is organized per-chip, with an additional level of
>>>>> hierarchy for the different managed subsystems.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, gm200 currently has two sub-directories, acr and gr, which
>>>>> contain the firmware files for secure boot (ACR) and PGRAPH (GR).
>>>>>
>>>>> ACR is a particular case and comes in the form of self-contained units
>>>>> (code, data, signature) that can be run on a high-secure falcon
>>>>> (currently
>>>>> PMU). It consumes a blob that is built by the kernel and contains the
>>>>> signed
>>>>> firmwares of the low-secure falcons to load and manage.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ACR blob is made of a header describing the managed falcons and the
>>>>> offses of their bootloader, code and data within the blob, as well as
>>>>> bootloader/code/data sections for each falcon.
>>>>>
>>>>> A signed, low-secure falcon firmware in the ACR blob is thus the
>>>>> aggregation
>>>>> of three different components:
>>>>>
>>>>> - An image containing the bl, code and data sections
>>>>> - A descriptor with the offsets of these sections within the image
>>>>> - A signature that the ACR will verify against
>>>>>
>>>>> These three components can come as files to be directly loaded. However
>>>>> for
>>>>> the current GR firmware we took the approach of splitting the bl, code
>>>>> and
>>>>> data sections into their own files, and building the image and
>>>>> descriptor
>>>>> on-the-fly, as you can see from gm200/gr:
>>>>>
>>>>> gm200/gr/fecs_bl.bin
>>>>> gm200/gr/fecs_data.bin
>>>>> gm200/gr/fecs_inst.bin
>>>>> gm200/gr/fecs_sig.bin
>>>>>
>>>>> The bl, data, and inst files are loaded and combined into an image
>>>>> while
>>>>> the
>>>>> corresponding descriptor is built. This is done in the
>>>>> ls_ucode_img_build()
>>>>> function.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main reason for doing this is there is that for a given GPU
>>>>> generation,
>>>>> the _bl and _inst files are very likely going to be exactly the same,
>>>>> with
>>>>> only the data and signature varying. Splitting the sections allow us to
>>>>> symlink identical files. For instance, gr/gm200 weights 61KB, while
>>>>> gm204/gr, which mostly symlinks to the former, only takes 8.5KB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another advantage is that this also allows the code and data to be
>>>>> directly
>>>>> loaded via the traditional method into a fused non-secure board,
>>>>> although
>>>>> this advantage is not too relevant for the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the design we took for now - it is possible to switch to a more
>>>>> smaller number of files per chip, and remove a bit of kernel code, at
>>>>> the
>>>>> cost of firmware footprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to make sure this design was ok and take any objection
>>>>> into
>>>>> account before the planned merge of the kernel support for signed
>>>>> firmware,
>>>>> hopefully next week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since the firmware is completely separate from the kernel, you need to
>>>> think about versioning. The firmware presents an ABI to the kernel,
>>>> and unless you promise to never ever ever ever ever change the ABI
>>>> with later updates, versioning the firmware files is something you're
>>>> going to have to think about. Sometimes it's done via filenames, e.g.
>>>> -1, -2, etc. Sometimes it's done by packing multiple data files into a
>>>> single one, allowing the code to pick whichever one it wants.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For versioning purposes, I thought about using different filenames. It is
>>> simple and effective, and since I cannot predict the scope of changes
>>> these
>>> files may undergo, it also seems to be the most flexible solution.
>>>
>>> Note that the format of files named similarly for different GPUs might
>>> also
>>> be different. What is guaranteed is that a given file will forever remain
>>> backward-compatible.
>>>
>>> There already are differences between the GM20B (Tegra) firmware files
>>> and
>>> the other GM20X due to GM20B coming from a different tree, so although it
>>> may be a little bit confusing this is a necessary evil. And it's not like
>>> we
>>> are not used to dealing with chip-specific ops in Nouveau anyway. :)
>>
>>
>> I meant more like an update for, say, GM20B, where you want to update
>> the ABI between the driver and the firmware. So you have the old
>> firmware, and now you have a new version of the same firmware, for a
>> particular chip...
>
>
> Right, so for that case GM20B can use different ops than the other GM20X to
> handle its firmware. And if an updated (and incompatible) firmware lands for
> an already existing chip, it will be recorded under a different filename.
> This will ensure that old kernels can keep booting forever. Or am I missing
> something?

No, that works. So instead of gm20b/gr/fecs_inst.bin it'll be
gm20b/gr/fecs_inst-2.bin and so on?


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