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I don't think any nouveau dev would disagree with the choice for a
software rendered browser over an unreliable browser. Insofar I
still count as a nouveau dev, I'll back this decision because it
benefits user experience.<br>
What is disappointing though is that when I perform a search on our
bug tracker (see [0] and [1]), I find precisely _one_ relevant bug.
Shame on us for not following up on that one, but shame on the
Chrome developers to decide they'd rather blacklist a driver than
publicly* reach out and ask what's going on. Blacklisting 3D
rendering on nouveau isn't going to fix nouveau, it's a short-term
improvement with no long term prospect.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/18 11:25, Megaf wrote:<br>
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I agree with them.</div>
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is extremely unstable on my MacBook Pro with Nvidia 320M,
freezing all the time and draining a lot of battery.</div>
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wise is not too bad tho.</div>
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style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;color:#444444">There's
plenty of reported bugs already around the web if someone
wants to investigate it.</div>
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Don't take this as personal criticism, I really appreciate the fact
that you reach out and bring this to our attention. What I do wish
to point out to anyone is that there are too many projects with too
many bug trackers out there to track all of them. In reality nouveau
devs monitor the nouveau bugtracker [2], and if you're lucky the
tracker of their favourite distro. I don't believe it's feasible to
expect driver devs to track more - we're already grossly
under"staffed". Sure, Chrome is a popular piece of software, but so
is Firefox, LibreOffice, VirtualBox, Wine, Dolphin, Gnome Shell etc.
etc... So my advice to anyone: if you want bugs actually fixed in
nouveau, do your civil duty and file them in the nouveau bugtracker.<br>
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Roy<br>
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[0]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Driver%2Fnouveau&product=xorg&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Driver%2Fnouveau&product=xorg&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr</a><br>
[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Drivers%2FDRI%2Fnouveau&product=Mesa&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Drivers%2FDRI%2Fnouveau&product=Mesa&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/">https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/</a><br>
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* I'm aware that a sizeable portion of the workforce behind nouveau
is currently employed by Red Hat. What happens behind their scenes
is unknown to me and other contributors...<br>
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<div><font color="#444444" face="monospace, monospace">skype:
eumegaf</font></div>
<div><font color="#444444" face="monospace, monospace">discord:
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 04:06, Matthew Ary <<a
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<div>I thought you all would like to know that
Google considers Nouveau to be unstable and is now
actively considering blacklisting. Please see this
issue on their issue tracker.</div>
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