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<span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">In the meantime I have contacted everyone who
could have something to do with it:</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">
<br>
</span></span><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Kernel
groups</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">
</span></span><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb"><br>
System D</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">
<br>
</span></span><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Nvidia</span></span></span><br>
<br>
And gues: <span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Everyone says it's not their fault.<br>
<br>
</span></span></span><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">But we don't give up.
Linux is such a beautiful and solid system.</span></span> <span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Why would it work with
Windows and not Linux?</span></span></span><br>
<span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb"><br>
</span></span></span><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Our analysis has now
discovered that the problem does indeed come from the kernel.</span></span>
<span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">The kernel does
not allow several users to access a graphics card at the same
time.</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">
</span></span><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Indeed,
to use it, several users need access to the graphics card at
the same time.</span></span><span class="jCAhz"><span class="ryNqvb">
<br>
</span></span></span><span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb">Can this simultaneous
access be allowed by the kernel after all?</span></span> <span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span class="ryNqvb"><br>
Or can the kernel be adjusted so that this would be possible?<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></span></span><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 15/12/2023 om 10:59 schreef Gert
Vanhaerents:<br>
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Op 4/12/2023 om 15:11 schreef Timur Tabi:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Mon, 2023-12-04 at 09:51 +0100, Gert
Vanhaerents wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">OK i will report it to nvidia. But with
the nouveau drivers it's also not
<br>
working. Are you sure it's not a kernel problem?
<br>
Because according to systemd it would be a kernel problem.
(personaly i am
<br>
also thinking it's a driver problem)
<br>
</blockquote>
Unfortunately, it's not easy for Nouveau to debug problems with
GSP-RM.
<br>
However, if the problem exists in the proprietary driver, then
Nvidia could
<br>
fix it. That would then lead to a new version of OpenRM that
Nouveau could
<br>
use.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I have contacted Nvidia and now i can see the outputs such like
this:
<br>
<br>
─/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:08:00.0/drm/card0
<br>
│ [MASTER] drm:card0
<br>
│
├─/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:08:00.0/drm/card0/card0-DVI-D-1<br>
│ │ [MASTER] drm:card0-DVI-D-1
<br>
│
├─/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:08:00.0/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1<br>
│ │ [MASTER] drm:card0-HDMI-A-1
<br>
│
└─/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:08:00.0/drm/card0/card0-VGA-1<br>
│ [MASTER] drm:card0-VGA-1
<br>
<br>
But the problem is now the same of with the Nouveau driver. When
you do this:
<br>
<br>
loginctl attach seat1
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:08:00.0/drm/card0/card0-VGA-1
<br>
<br>
For the seat1 (the VGA d-sub output for seat1 and the other HDMI
output for seat0) and of course the mouse and keyboard.
<br>
<br>
When you do this, all the graphics outputs are on the second seat
(seat1) and not anymore on the first seat. So i need to move only
the VGA output to seat1 and not all the outputs.
<br>
<br>
<br>
The problem is that linux can not start 2 or more window managers
on one card (even if you don't need a multiseat, but use only one
mouse and keyboard).
<br>
<br>
So how can i fix that i can use more than one window manager on
one physical graphics card? (without Xephyr or something because
they are to outdated and works not good).
<br>
<br>
I have tried with: Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Debian all the same
problem.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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