[Openchrome-users] OpenChrome and 775VM800 - Progress

[Thomas Hellstrom]

> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 06:23:21AM +0100, Thomas Hellstrom wrote:
>>
>> Luc:
>> It's amazing that this never settles.
>>
> As long as the problem exists, it won't settle.
>
>> Yes. VBE _is_ hampering development of output support on the Unichromes.
>> Under some circumstances it might even be justified to call it a rot in
>> the driver. I think most people that have read your reasoning agrees.
>>
>> However, None of the Unichrome Pro TV-out support fixes would have
>> happened without VBE modes, and I also believe that most people reading
>
> I remember reworking your VBE code, so that, amongst a lot of cleanups,
> it also allowed for registers to be dumped. It was by no means your
> intention when you wrote your initial code.

Yes, thanks. That indeed helped a lot. It was my intention, though. I
remember mentioning it in the pre-implementation discussion, but I guess I
got too carried away getting the panel to work or fixing up XvMC which
someone broke so horribly while trying to reduce the number of global
symbols. Let's not throw the first stone here, shall we?

>
>> this agree that wilfully hiding features from users in order to have a
>> greater chance of receiving hardware donations to implement proper
>> modesetting is not the right way to go.
>
> Apart from those few minor changes, what else has changed since then?
> The drive that was there before has gone completely. Now even small
> issues are impossible to fix without the hardware.
>
>>
>> An idea that came up on XDevConf was to brand hardware Xorg compliant. A
>> little logo goes with it. Although the idea was initially targeted at
>> broken KVMs that would not let through EDID information, why not include
>> free modesetting for all supported output devices. That would target the
>> hardware manufacturers instead of our own users.
>>
>> /Thomas
>
> By the time that happens, we're several unichrome generations further
> again, or VIA has stopped pushing unichrome for deltachrome altogether.

It might be true, but what should the average user do in the meantime
should we ditch VBE? She can't donate hardware to you, because you won't
accept it and nobody else is really interested enough in implementing
modesetting to do a good job. Should she go for VIA's binaries or throw
away her hardware?

>
> Luc Verhaegen
>

/Thomas