[Openicc] Assigning icc profiles to driver settings

[Jan-Peter Homann]

Hello Edmund,
There seems to be somekind of misunderstanding between us...
We all know, that both on Mac OSX and Windows, ICC colormanagement for 
the standard printing chain with interaction of OS, application and 
printer drivers is currently not managable.

The min problem is, that the vendors of OS, applications and printer 
drivers don´t interact and every one implements ICC colormanagement from 
his own small perspective.

Today I believe, that the Open Source Community is the only place, where 
we can find a working agreement between developers of OS, graphic 
layers, printing infrastructure, applications and so on.

 From the statements in the OpenICC mailinglist, you see that quite 
importing people from the "private club ICC" are monitoring this list 
and providing valuable input.

If workflows will be approved to work in a 100% Open Source environment, 
I don´t see why we should forbid vendors and users also to implement 
such workflows in mixed environments of propietary and Open Source 
software like e.g. CUPS and Gutenprint on Mac OS X or Windows. If such 
workflows are also supported and recommended by the ICC I feel fine with it.

My e-mail about concepts for assigning ICC profiles to printer driver 
settings is intended to start a discussion about the possibilities, 
advantages and pitfalls of the different concepts.

Currently I´m quite pleased with the different statements we are getting 
in the discussion.

Best regards
Jan-Peter


Am 18.01.11 17:39, schrieb edmund ronald:
> Jan Peter,
>
>   This a problem which directly concerns all who deal with the print
> process. Your position on ICC-related issues has been that there
> should not be a direct public engagement of the ICC with outside
> developers ; in that context -even as an ICC member - I would say that
> it is counterproductive to use an ICC-standardised format for the
> various settings values related to setting up a printer.
>
>   Decide whether you want to engage in a public debate before
> standardisation, with all parties on an equal footing or whether you
> want a private club to run things - but if it is a private club, don't
> expect us to follow.
>
> Edmund
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Jan-Peter Homann
> <homann at colormanagement.de>  wrote:
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> During the discussion started with colord, one important topic is the
>> association of an icc profile to a printer driver setting.
>>
>> Currently, it seems to me, that we have following possibilities:
>>
>> 1) PPD colour keywords:
>> The PPD for a given printer must be able, to describe all color relevant
>> driver settings with all parameters (incl. low level driver settings if
>> necessary)
>> an ICC profile will be assigned to a proper parametrized PPD and the PPD
>> will completely set up the color options in the printer driver.
>>
>> 2) Driver settings implemented as metadata-information into the ICC-profile
>> Like with the PPD-workflow, all color relebant printer driver settings are
>> stored as metadata into the ICC-profile. The printer driver must be able to
>> extract this information from the ICC profile and will be completely setup
>> by the ICC-profile itself.
>>
>> 3) serialized driver settings
>> The driver settings are able to be serialized (which optimally able to be
>> exported and imported)
>> The ICC-profile will be associated with the serial ID of the driver setting.
>>
>>
>> It would be interesting to know, which of these ways are preferred by the
>> community.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Jan-Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
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