[Openicc] Helping with colord

[Chris Murphy]

I understand users, workflow, good and bad things with existing implementations, certain really specific aspects of the technologies involved, and color science. That's not enough for an architect to create a new system, or even a system. But definitely not the general contractor. There's probably a role for me to play but unlikely those two.

I could say, "we need a door here and a window here" and have no idea how to frame a door or window, let alone anything about foundations. That's what architects do, even if they often don't care exactly where you put the window, they will design a window on a ceiling if you ask for it. I can't do that. It's someone else's role.

We need a spec, or standard. And Graeme's point on how profile and device associations are determined, stored, and exchanged. That sort of thing scan be hashed around for a long time but at a certain point we need some formal debates by the proponents and straw polls, and then make some clear choices and move forward with designing from that choice so that building can start.


Chris



On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:32 AM, edmund ronald wrote:

> Chris -
> 
> You are probably the only person here who actually understands the
> whole color chain, even if you don't develop open source. Most of us
> deal with very precisely delimited pieces, which is actually why we
> are having this discussion because we are all noticing that we need to
> get together to assemble a larger quilt.
> 
> Edmund
> 
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:
>> I do not mean a person who makes all decisions, or final decisions, or necessarily establishes the direction. But if I want to get something done, I need to know what that is. If it's vague, ill defined, I can certainly talk about it and peripheral things for hours, days, or weeks. But that goes no where. If I really want to get something done I must know what that is first. Then evaluate where I am, and how I'm going to navigate my way to where I go. It's good to have structure and someone who can dispassionately inform the group about big picture consequences (good and bad) to certain choices.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:58 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 09.03.11, 08:02 +0100 schrieb edmund ronald:
>>>> True. However with this color stuff, one issue is that none of us can
>>>> really understand everything from end to end, and so the online
>>>> cocktail party serves to raise awareness of the issues upstream and
>>>> downstream of our personal projects and expertise.
>>> 
>>> Highly agreed. To me it appears we all can only learn from the discussions. I did not see a single person here, who can push its vision in all details and get out something meaningful.
>>> 
>>>> And by the way, if you want the role of Color Czar for Linux, you get my vote.
>>>> 
>>>> Edmund
>>> 
>>> kind regards
>>> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
>>> --
>>> developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
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