[Openicc] GoSoC 2011: CPD and Color Management
edmund ronald
edmundronald at gmail.com
Tue May 3 14:29:53 PDT 2011
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Ann McCarthy <almccart at lexmark.com> wrote:
> So you are proposing that 'ink settings' are one of the printer setup
> characteristics that exist in a workflow data container, and then also can
> be pulled into a profile as it is built using the particular ink settings.
>
> How about a function that supports "selectively initialize the printer setup
> for this new profile - including ink settings -- from this x existing
> profile"?
I would respectfully suggest an alternative, namely a set of
command-line accessors that can embed (with substitution) and extract
ink settings from an "enriched profile". These command-line tools
could then be deployed to create the enriched system profiles,
whatever the profiling system used, and indeed profiling could easily
be done on another system:
addinkset <input-xml-inkset-file> <input-profile.icc>
<output-enriched-profile.icc>
getinkset <input-enriched-profile.icc> <output-inkset-xml-file>
Edmund
>
> Best regards,
> Ann L McCarthy
> Imaging Systems R&D
> Lexmark International, Inc.
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:50 PM, edmund ronald <edmundronald at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ann,
>>
>> I have no problem with a profile "containing" ink settings, as you
>> wisely recommend. In fact I consider it to a most excellent idea that
>> will simplify workflows, and prevent many current user errors.
>>
>> However I do think ink settings ALSO need to be able to exist without
>> the profile since the ink settings precede the profile, and since it
>> is extremely advantageous to be able to adopt the ink settings from
>> some known paper as a quick starting point to work with another paper.
>> Ink settings, as we agree do precede profiles, and therefore need to
>> be able to exist and be invoked independently of profiles.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Ann McCarthy <almccart at lexmark.com> wrote:
>> > Edmund,
>> >
>> > Although the ink settings precede the profile, and may be the same in
>> > more
>> > than one profile, it is still important for correct profile usage to
>> > record
>> > in each profile the ink settings that are correct for that profile.
>> > The ink settings are part of the underpinning of a profile determining
>> > its
>> > correct use.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ann L McCarthy
>> > Imaging Systems R&D
>> > Lexmark International, Inc.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:39 PM, edmund ronald <edmundronald at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would recommend finding a way to pass the ink settings independently
>> >> of a profile.
>> >>
>> >> Because:
>> >> The settings describe device linearisation and used choices (eg. dpi
>> >> setting) and thus PRECEDE the profile in time.
>> >> In this way the first prints -Targets- will be made with a given
>> >> setting by printing to DeviceSpace for profiling.
>> >> Many profiles can be made for a given set of settings, indeed some of
>> >> these can refer to different paper types for which it is convenient to
>> >> reuse a given ink setting.
>> >>
>> >> My Reasoning
>> >> Is that settings are quite independent of profiles, and should thus
>> >> not be bound to any one setting.
>> >> Indeed Robert generates settings but AFAIK has never made a profile.
>> >>
>> >> Edmund
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b at gmx.de> wrote:
>> >> > I am searching a way to unambigously pass settings from the print
>> >> > client
>> >> > (CPD, lpr) to the CUPS server and print driver (rastertoprinter).
>> >> > There are two ways possible. Embedd the device calibration settings
>> >> > always
>> >> > into the print ICC profile. Or pass these settings independently.
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