[Openicc] [Gutenprint Color Management] Will my prints look good?

[Robert Krawitz]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:38:04 +0200 (MEST), Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
> Am 26.06.11, 14:27 -0400 schrieb Robert Krawitz:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:41:10 +0200 (MEST), Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
>>>
>>> The overlapping part of David and Peter is target printing/ICC less
>>> printing. If they find a possibility in the UI, to assign a ICC
>>> profile to a given freely manipulateable calibration state, then I
>>> guess both are well served.
>>
>> Because the ICC profile is a good start, but Peter wants to tweak the
>> results (maybe he wants the print to be a bit more saturated -- his
>> aesthetic preference).
>
> Thats reasonable.
>>>
>>> As far as I see thats a UI problem. "Allow override (advanced users
>>> only!)" is not that easy to handle UI wise. What to expect if a user
>>> has overriden and wants later to go back to a well defined state. Is
>>> simply unchecking the box enough to remove all changes made? Or will
>>> than uncheck of "Allow override (advanced users only!)" just freeze
>>> the changes?
>>
>> Actually hide (not just gray out) the other options if the override
>> box is not checked, and then don't apply the changes.  The override
>> tweaks should only be applied if the box is checked.
>
> Seems a good behaviour for the checkbox. Still the print dialog is
> then some kind of calibration editor, which is IMO not ideal fitting
> into a ICC workflow.

Only if that box is checked.

>>> For Dave and Jane this will be pretty unclear and feel like a
>>> pitfall.  To be sure they need every day to freshly select the ICC
>>> profile and then can start to work. For Jane this is clearly too
>>> much to request.
>>
>> Why do they need to do that?  As long as they never check the override
>> box, nothing changes.
>
> I would like to let David and Jane see one ICC profile name and done.
>
> Consequently to meet Peters demand, he had to attach his new
> calibration state to the ICC profile. That way he can store his many
> edits. The prize is to first unselect the ICC profile, then do the
> calibration/options editing and reassign the ICC profile to the new
> calibration state.

How does he know what the result will be if he can't use the ICC
profile when he's doing his edits?  And what if he wants to have
several different sets of settings all using the same base profile?