[packagekit] Res: KPackageKit and Shaman working together?

Vlad vladc6 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 25 17:19:01 PDT 2008


Daniel, Lukas:

Thanks for clarifying the goals of the two projects and how they relate. Regarding Shaman's goal of supporting every backend natively -- if that becomes true, then there might be no need to support PackageKit anymore, since PackageKit itself is only a simplified abstraction layer on top of the native backend. 

Vlad


--- On Fri, 7/25/08, dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br <dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br> wrote:

> From: dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br <dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br>
> Subject: Res: KPackageKit and Shaman working together?
> To: "Lukas Appelhans" <l.appelhans at gmx.de>, vladc6 at yahoo.com
> Cc: zealot.hoi at gmail.com, madcat at mymadcat.com, kde-devel at kde.org, packagekit at lists.freedesktop.org
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 9:27 AM
> Just to clarify the naming: QPackageKit is the first effort
> to bring PackageKit Ui to Kde desktop,
> it was develop just by Adien Bustany, then i appeared and
> we joined forces, i think we didn\t use
> any of it's code but i prefered to call it
> KPackageKit since the ui was going to integrate with Kde
> and also uses a bounch of kdelibs,
> Adrien most efforts were on the libpackagekit-qt, he knew
> packagekit much better than i
> and he created an excelent lib, this way i developing the
> ui could point what the lib should have...
> Now Shaman or any other project can use the lib and make a
> new ui...
> I think that the main point about KPackageKit is it nice
> integration with system settings
> and some other stuff that aren't ready yet. as i said i
> would like to KPackageKit be 
> only a PackageKit ui (also the official), and no plugin
> stuff... 
> 
> Shaman imho is a very nice project that aims to be a super
> package manager, and 
> i like it but for end users i think that the simplier ui
> the easy for then, package
> installing is already hard... 
> Joining forces is just a metter of objectives they want
> more power i want simplicity.
> At the end the user can choose, or just have both :D
> 
> Btw i don't know if they are already using the lib,
> cause i make some changes, we
> would like some feedback too if you have some wish for the
> lib :D
> 
> Daniel.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Lukas Appelhans <l.appelhans at gmx.de>
> Para: vladc6 at yahoo.com
> Cc: zealot.hoi at gmail.com; madcat at mymadcat.com;
> dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br; kde-devel at kde.org;
> packagekit at lists.freedesktop.org
> Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 25 de Julho de 2008 20:07:11
> Assunto: Re: KPackageKit and Shaman working together?
> 
> Hey!
> We are aware of that, we have even talked together at some
> point ;)
> 
> Actually, it seems KPackageKit is a very basic
> Package-Management-Programm 
> (from philosophy)... nothing against that, it's great
> :)
> But we are going to write a very advanced Package-Manager,
> for example at the 
> end we want to have something like Provider-Plugins which
> are used to compile 
> a Package from Source (supporting ABS, AUR for those who
> are familiar with 
> ArchLinux)...
> 
> Also our aim is to support every Backend natively, as
> it's "way" faster 
> then...
> 
> Wang Kai, our PackageKit-Backend-Plugin-Author will reply
> to this as well from 
> his point :)
> 
> Lukas
> 
> 
> 
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