[packagekit] [RFE] Enable packagekit to download updates at leisure and install them during the next reboot

[Jean Hubbard]

Since PK is distro neutral i personally think it would be best to promote it that way.



> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:55:48 +0200
> From: devel at glatzor.de
> To: packagekit at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [packagekit] [RFE] Enable packagekit to download updates at leisure and install them during the next reboot
> 
> Hello mvo,
> 
> At the Lucid UDS there was a session about installing updates on
> shutdown.
> 
> What is the current status about this? Would it make sense to promote
> it to a distro neutral level?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 02:12:39PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On 15 Ju ne 2010 12:15, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
> > <sidhpurwala.huzaifa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have been using packagekit for some time now and it an amazing piece of
> > > software. Kudos to everyone working on this.
> > 
> > Blush. :-)
> > 
> > > There is one feature which i think would make updating desktops much more
> > > easier and safer, that would be
> > > ability to install software on reboot, so that existing applications are not
> > > disturbed. So here is my suggestion:
> > 
> > A few people have asked me for related functionality for other
> > corporate desktop products, so it's probably a good idea we include
> > something like this upstream rather than let people hack other stuff
> > on top.
> > 
> > > 1. PackageKit downloads the updates silently in a cache folder. This can be
> > > toggled on or off by root or
> > >     users (depending on policykit)
> > 
> > Sure, we can do that now with a tiny bit of code. Adding a bit of code
> > to PkPackageSack could turn it from a 10 line chunk of code to a 1
> > line chuck of code, and possibly a good idea.
> > 
> > > 2. On reboot, just before the gdm window, it opens a dialog , asking if the
> > > user, if he wants to install those updates. If the user
> > >     agrees the updates are installed , if not optionally it should be able
> > > to mail the admin of or system that it failed etc.
> > 
> > This would be done pre-gdm-login? Pre-X? Post-authenticate-in-session?
> > 
> > > This basically has many advantages:
> > > 1. Applications sp ones based on gecko get mangled, when they are updates
> > > and behave strangely. The best way to update
> > > then is to close them update and open them, which would mean loosing all
> > > work.
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> > > 2. The above enables corporate desktop updates in a more easier and
> > > controlled way.
> > 
> > Sure, which other people have requested. So, deliverable for this functionality:
> > 
> > * Function added to PkPackageSack to download all packages to a directory
> > * Path added to the config file for the boot-time-updates
> > * Command added to pkcon, update-at-next-boot
> > * Command added to pkcon, install-boot-updates
> > * A directory path for the cache, /usr/cache/PackageKit/updates (?)
> > 
> > Questions:
> > 
> > 1. Do we delete the files in the boot-time cache after they are updated?
> > 2. Do we use GNOME PackageKit to do the integration bits in gdm, or
> > rely on a pre-X environment in the init?
> > 3. Do we want to install files at boot time also? If so we need some
> > sort of manifest.
> > 
> > Richard.
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