[Piglit] [PATCH 5/8] arb_shader_image_load_store: add additional coherency test

Jan Vesely jan.vesely at rutgers.edu
Sat Apr 16 20:26:38 UTC 2016


On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 10:19 -0500, Nicolai Hähnle wrote:
> On 15.04.2016 17:12, Francisco Jerez wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For a test doing almost the same thing but not relying on
> > > > > > unspecified
> > > > > > invocation ordering, see
> > > > > > "tests/spec/arb_shader_image_load_store/shader-mem-
> > > > > > barrier.c" -- It
> > > > > > would be interesting to see whether you can get it to
> > > > > > reproduce the GCN
> > > > > > coherency bug using different framebuffer size and modulus
> > > > > > parameters.
> > > > > I tried that, but couldn't reproduce. Whether I just wasn't
> > > > > thorough
> > > > > enough/"unlucky" or whether the in-order nature of the
> > > > > hardware and L1
> > > > > cache behavior just makes it impossible to fail the shader-
> > > > > mem-barrier
> > > > > test, I'm not sure.
> > > > > 
> > > > Now I'm curious about the exact nature of the bug ;), some sort
> > > > of
> > > > missing L1 cache-flushing which could potentially affect
> > > > dependent
> > > > invocations?
> > > I'm not sure I remember everything, to be honest.
> > > 
> > > One issue that I do remember is that load/store by default go
> > > through
> > > L1, but atomics _never_ go through L1, no matter how you compile
> > > them.
> > > This means that if you're working on two different images, one
> > > with
> > > atomics and the other without, then the atomic one will always
> > > behave
> > > coherently but the other one won't unless you explicitly tell it
> > > to.
> > > 
> > > Now that I think about this again, there should probably be a
> > > shader-mem-barrier-style way to test for that particular issue in
> > > a way
> > > that doesn't depend on the specifics of the parallelization.
> > > Something
> > > like, in a loop:
> > > 
> > > Thread 1: increasing imageStore into image 1 at location 1,
> > > imageLoad
> > > from image 1 location 2
> > > 
> > > Thread 2: same, but exchange locations 1 and 2
> > > 
> > > Both threads: imageAtomicAdd on the same location in image 2
> > > 
> > > Then each thread can check that _if_ the imageAtomicAdd detects
> > > the
> > > buddy thread operating in parallel, _then_ they must also observe
> > > incrementing values in the location that the buddy thread stores
> > > to.
> > > Does that sound reasonable?
> > > 
> > Yeah, that sounds reasonable, but keep in mind that even if both
> > image
> > variables are marked coherent you cannot make assumptions about the
> > ordering of the image stores performed on image 1 relative to the
> > atomics performed on image 2 unless there is an explicit barrier in
> > between, which means that some level of L1 caching is legitimate
> > even in
> > that scenario (and might have some performance benefit over
> > skipping L1
> > caching of coherent images altogether) -- That's in fact the way
> > that
> > the i965 driver implements coherent image stores: We just write to
> > L1
> > and flush later on to the globally coherent L3 on the next
> > memoryBarrier().
> Okay, adding the barrier makes sense.
> 
> 
> > 
> > What about a test along the lines of the current coherency
> > test?  Any
> > idea what's the reason you couldn't get it to reproduce the
> > issue?  Is
> > it because threads with dependent inputs are guaranteed to be
> > spawned in
> > the same L1 cache domain as the threads that generated their inputs
> > or
> > something like that?
>  From what I understand (though admittedly the documentation I have
> on 
> this is not the clearest...), the hardware flushes the L1 cache 
> automatically at the end of each shader invocation, so that
> dependent 
> invocations are guaranteed to pick it up.

The GCN whitepaper mentions both that the L1D cache is write-through
and sends data to L2 at the end all 64 WF stores (page 9), and that the
L1 cache writes back data at the end of wavefront or when barrier is
invoked (page 10).

Jan

> 
> Cheers,
> Nicolai
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