[poppler] pdftohtml lets you run random shell commands
Albert Astals Cid
aacid at kde.org
Thu Apr 19 09:27:37 PDT 2012
El Dijous, 19 d'abril de 2012, a les 12:39:00, Ihar `Philips` Filipau va
> On 4/19/12, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > --- El jue, 19/4/12, Ihar `Philips` Filipau <thephilips at gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> > And now realize the pdftohtml can be called from a webservice.
> Get real, man.
> In that case, a user or a random person off a street will NEVER ever
> have a possibility to supply random string to a command to be ran on
> the server.
> This is the same as the SQL injections and should be handled by
> webservice the same way - by NEVER EVER exposing anything to raw
> unfiltered user input.
So you say "NEVER EVER exposing anything to raw unfiltered user input" and at
the same time argue we can do it and it's fine?
> > Now let's be serious, the world is full of people that don't have a clue,
> > and those people usually copy and paste from the interwebs, now imagine
> > that I run an obscure command line of pdftohtml i found in a forum that
> > says it'll work better because it does magic and it ends up removing all
> > the files in my home folder. I'd call that unexpected behaviour
> There are lots of ways - and on forums the text coloring is most
> popular among them - of how one can sneak a stealthy command into
> something innocently looking. That's why on all *nix forums there is a
> merciless ban hammer against such jokers. (I'm an old time Perl coder
> and there was this period of time on Perl forums too.)
> And btw, the same way, one can simply append invisible "; rm -rf *" to
> the end of pdftothml invocation. And there is nothing you can do about
> Overall, I think you are overreacting. I'm perfectly aware of what I'm
> talking about, actually developing and maintaining software running as
> a back-end for a B2B webservice of sorts. (And I did develop
> webservices in past too.) And I do have two suid-root tools under my
> responsibility, so this problems are rather closer to me than you
> But then again, I said from the beginning, I do not mind the change
> (esp. if it would reuse some list or even a fixed size array instead
> of va_list), since it cleans up the main() of pdftohtml. If you wish I
> can experiment with escaping the string too (I have some spare time
> right now). Theoretically, for system() it should suffice to escape
> every single quote and wrap the string in the single quotes.
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