[pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH] module-gsettings: new module to store configuration using gsettings

Sylvain Baubeau lebauce at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 21:21:11 UTC 2016


Hello,

2016-09-27 21:32 GMT+02:00 Felipe Sateler <fsateler at debian.org>:

> On 26 September 2016 at 06:27, Tanu Kaskinen <tanuk at iki.fi> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2016-09-21 at 13:04 +0200, Sylvain Baubeau wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> First of all, I do not work for Fedora. I happen to use it, that's about
> >> it. Please don't blame Fedora for my less-than-perfect patch.
> >
> > Ok, thanks for the clarification.
> >
> >> I did the paprefs patch to make the upgrade process easier but it seems
> it
> >> makes it harder so I suggest we forget about the paprefs migration to
> >> gsettings and stick to gconf.
> >>
> >> In this case, I don't really see a problem with the upgrade :
> >> By default, module-gsettings is disabled and module-gconf stays enabled
> and
> >> nothing will change if the distribution maintainer does nothing.
> >>
> >> If a distribution wants to move to gsettings, it could do so during a
> major
> >> upgrade of the distro (that would probably update Gnome, the kernel and
> >> would require a session restart). They could decide to enable both
> modules
> >> - so that old programs keep working and new ones could use the new
> module -
> >> or switch completely to gsettings, after they make sure all programs
> >> packaged by the distribution have a migration script.
> >
> > (A sidenote: paprefs is (at least I hope so) the only application that
> > uses this stuff, so we don't need to worry about others.)
> >
> > It would be nice to have thoughts from actual package maintaners about
> > this.
>
> I have to say I'm not sure how an upgrade scenario would play out. My
> understanding currently is as follows:
>
> 1. paprefs can ship a file for gsettings-data-convert, which migrates
> the settings.

2. However that tool is only run at login.
> 3. As a consequence, the paprefs tool can be in an inconsistent state
> after an upgrade and before the next login.
>
> It seems that the problem is resolved by papfrefs triggering the tool
> on startup as suggested by the gnome documentation[1].
>

Thanks for pointing this out. I updated my paprefs patch to apply
paprefs.convert at startup.


>
> However that leaves us with another problem, as the pulseaudio daemon
> is not restarted automatically after an upgrade, and thus gsettings
> module might not be loaded. But, I hope paprefs can already deal with
> such a scenario and prompt the user accordingly.
>

Unfortunately, paprefs does not deal with such a scenario. It will
therefore be able to modify the configuration but this configuration will
only take effect when pulseaudio is restarted. What do you suggest
prompting the user with ?

Thanks,
Sylvain


>
> In debian there is only paprefs depending on module-gconf. I don't
> think we'll keep module-gconf after paprefs has migrated.
>
> [1] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/gstreamer-sdk/data/
> docs/latest/gio/ch29s07.html
>
> --
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
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