[pulseaudio-discuss] Toslink capture looback latency problem

NicoHood pulseaudio-discuss at nicohood.de
Mon Jan 29 18:39:14 UTC 2018

On 01/29/2018 07:19 PM, Georg Chini wrote:
> On 29.01.2018 18:46, Nico wrote:
>> On 01/29/2018 03:52 PM, NicoHood wrote:
>>> On 01/29/2018 03:29 PM, Georg Chini wrote:
>>>> On 29.01.2018 14:44, NicoHood wrote:
>>>>> On 01/29/2018 01:39 PM, Georg Chini wrote:
>>>>>> On 29.01.2018 12:52, Nico wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I want to capture the audio stream of my TV with my PCI-E Toslink
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> card and play it back on my usb XLR soundcard. The reason why I
>>>>>>> do that
>>>>>>> is to use my own music boxes rather than the TV speakers. With
>>>>>>> toslink +
>>>>>>> XLR I do not have problems with ground loops etc.
>>>>>>> I am using the pulseaudio loopback module with its default
>>>>>>> configuration. The problem is, that the delay between picture and
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> is about one second off, and the longer I wait, the more delay it
>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>> (30 seconds and more). It is no usable like this.
>>>>>>> I tried to play with the latencies of source, sink and the tv delay
>>>>>>> itself without sucess. I also tried streaming with pacat directly as
>>>>>>> described here:
>>>>>>> https://thelinuxexperiment.com/fix-pulseaudio-loopback-delay/
>>>>>>> I also tried to change different parameters of the loopback
>>>>>>> module or
>>>>>>> the sources/sinks, but that did not help. I never changed any global
>>>>>>> pulseaudio config to avoid larger configuration issues. The CPU
>>>>>>> usage of
>>>>>>> pulseaudio is at 3% with the loopback module
>>>>>>> Can anyone help me to get rid of this lag?
>>>>>> Hi Nico,
>>>>>> which version of PA are you using? Can you provide logs?
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>                Georg
>>>>> Hi Georg,
>>>>> oh sure I completely forgot:
>>>>> pulseaudio 11.1-1 (Arch Linux)
>>>>> uname -a: Linux zebes 4.14.15-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 23
>>>>> 21:49:25
>>>>> UTC 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>> Here is a logfile:
>>>>> LANG=C pulseaudio -vvvv --log-time=1 > ~/pulseverbose.log 2>&1
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/85976f426e1621e599253ee1a95230dd
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Nico
>>>> This is weird. It looks like the source sample rate is so much higher
>>>> than the sink rate that module-loopback can't adapt. No idea why
>>>> this happens. Does it work with another input?
>>> I've tested it also with the builtin front microphone input (2nd
>>> revision on gist) and with the PCIE Analog line in (3rd gist revision).
>>> You can view the changes here:
>>> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/85976f426e1621e599253ee1a95230dd/revisions
>>> The problem only occurs with the digital, optical TOSLINK input from my
>>> Samsung TV. For some other reason the sound distortion for the analog
>>> input is now (temporary) gone. However I still want to get that TOSLINK
>>> running :/
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>> As an additional test I send the audio to the TOSLINK output of the
>> soundcard, back to its input and setup loopback on the input again (to
>> the USB soundcard). With this method the sound has no lag. The
>> difference is that the toslink signal comes from the soundcard itself
>> rather than the TV. I have some smaller noises/distortion however
>> sometimes. Here is the log:
>> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/6ef237649d97eaa69d9a78dd91eff34a
> Somehow this still sounds like a sample rate mismatch. (A wild
> guess, I do not know how the signal chain works for a TOS-link)
> Have you tried setting your card to 48kHz? You can change
> default-sample-rate and alternate-sample-rate in daemon.conf
> both to 48000 and restart pulse to enforce this.

With 48kHz The sound is working properly now. The problem I got ~~now~~
is that there is sound distortion in the recording. -> A reboot fixed that.

Is there any negative effect when using 48kHz as default sample rate? Is
there a way to configure only the loopback module with this special
sample rate? (Sorry, I have no idea how audio works internally). And if
there is no other way than configuring the default sample rate, how can
is set this as user (without root) if possible?

Thanks a lot so far :)

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