<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Tanu, your observations are every very helpful and time saving. If I may, I'd ask an ancillary question. It's not actually the card's device.description I want to change. I just had a curious question about that because that is what is used at present by the Sound settings app in Linux MINT (Cinnamon) to identify sound devices. Only I find that wholly inadequate and have the strong desire to name my sound devices as I manage quite a number and even in the simplest case of two onboard sound devices on a NUC the names not at all useful in identifying which is which on the ports. The use-case I'm after is simple: <ul> <li>Open Sound settings app. </li> <li>Edit name of sound device to reflect my configs.</li> <li>See the device thusly described thence-forth in the Sound settings app at least, ideally in any app of mixer that works with cards.</li> </ul> That's looking like a biggish sort of ask as I don't even suspect device.description is the right place for it, as that is populated with something semi sensible already. Though it might be, as I'm not sure if there's a pulaseaudio spec that states that card.device.description should be used to identifying cards in apps that work with them. It might rather be that the most appropriate path forward is a new property like card.device.name that is editable and has methods for setting it and remembering it. But that actually raises the question, whether such a property belongs in pulseaudio at all or in alsa? Or I note that ports sometimes have a device.product.name property, which if it's an HDMI or DisplayPort device seems to contain a lucid name for the device. Perhaps support for a port property like device.description is consistent with the paradigm in place, and it could be made editable/updatable and then Sounds Settings apps can use this in their titles for sound devices? My experience is not deep. I'm dishing for wisdom. Either way I see this is likely a common use case among people working much with sound, and a real bother. Printers don't have this problem, I can name them. Awesome. And the name is distinct form the description. Regards, Bernd. Tanu Kaskinen wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:1471270140.1263.17.camel@iki.fi" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Mon, 2016-08-15 at 23:28 +1000, Bernd Wechner wrote: > I notice it's possible to alter sink properties with > update-sink-properties but see no analog for card properties. > > Specifically I find that pulse audio sets the device.description for > cards, to "Built-in Audio" if it's on the motherboard, but for USB sound > devices takes the USB property idProduct. > > Either way I use lots of sound devices and they are apparently listed by > card device.description in the Sound settings app (Linux Mint Cinnamon) > and I'd like to be able to adjust the device.description for cards. > > Is there a way to do this I'm not seeing? I don't think there's any way for cards that are loaded by module-udev- detect. If you disable module-udev-detect and load module-alsa-card instances manually, then you can use the card_properties argument. Patches for adding a set-card-description command for pactl (and to the native protocol) would be welcome. I don't like the idea of adding a more general "update-card-properties" command, however. The server uses proplists for things that clients shouldn't be able to freely mess with. If "update-card-properties" would be added, we would have to make sure that the server doesn't trust the proplist values too much. pacmd already has the update-sink-properties and other similar commands, which may seem strange given what I wrote above, and indeed I wish those commands didn't exist. It could be argued that not much extra damage would be made by adding an update-card-properties command to pacmd, and that might be true (I might even accept such patch), but given that pacmd is semi-deprecated in favour of pactl, I'm not really enthusiastic about adding new functionality to pacmd. -- Tanu _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org">pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>