Call Monday 24 Jan 2005

[Roland Mainz]

Daniel Stone wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 08:11:59AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> > Adam Jackson wrote:
> > >Are you seriously suggesting disciplinary action for a change that appears
> > >to have majority community support and that we have no established policy
> > >for doing any other way?
> >
> > I don't know about what action should be taken, but I don't believe there is
> > any sort of consensus or majority support for dismantling the monolithic
> > tree, unless and until a plan is in place to get a working modular release
> > going.   Destroying what we have without a replacement is just foolish.
> 
> Again, I would like to reiterate that, despite my intense dislike for the
> current situation on more of a level than even just the security nightmare this
> creates, *no* code was removed from the tree.

No, you just changed the default build options of parts of the tree
which you do...
a) ... NOT OWN!!
b) ... were part of X11R6.3, 6.4, 6.5, 6.5.1, 6.6. Unfortuntely the
X11R6.7 release introduced a glitch from the Xfree86 repository which I
fixed (I did this work as I try to care about all the (reasonable (not
things like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2363)) bug
reports if I can handle them or forward them to a matching owner). And
that glitch does NOT give you the right to UNDO that without going to
the normal procedure of depreciating things (e.g. via xorg_arch etc.).
There was no EOL notice or anything else which inidcates that the XRX
technology is depreciated.

> In fact, thanks to XRX, today has
> actually been a net gain in terms of the amount of code in the monolithic tree:
> the beast just got bigger.

Bigger where ? You have turned XRX OFF in the default build for _all_
platforms!

Daniel: What would you say when I would (theoretically!! (I am not
planning this, the question is only of theoretical nature!)) start to
rip off all the Debian-specific parts of the Xorg tree ? Wouldn't you
scream and complain - [YES] or [NO] ?

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Bye,
Roland

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