[systemd-bugs] [Bug 88570] systemd is malware

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88570

--- Comment #5 from Christopher <laserhawk64 at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Lennart Poettering from comment #4)
> (In reply to dwillar from comment #2)
> > This is far from being resolved and certainly is not invalid. Why should the
> > greater Linux community be FORCED into being beta testers for Red Hat? It is
> > time the Linux community stood up to this systemd and turn it into something
> > useful or flush it down the drain of history. Systemd flies in the face of
> > everything Linux!
> 
> Ok, I'll bite. Red Hat is shipping systemd in stable RHEL 7 already, at a
> time where DEbian or Ubuntu for example is still in the process of adopting
> it. Hence: if anything Red Hat was the betatester for Debian here. Not vice
> versa.
> 
> Anyway, please complain about all this elsewhere. With slashdot et al there
> are more than enough forums around, where complains like yours can be
> vented. It's completely pointless trolling in our bug reporting system like
> you are doing.

Call me what you will, I don't mind, I'm fairly thick skinned. For the record,
I live in a nice house, not under a bridge... please reserve the term 'troll'
for those who actually deserve it.

Besides, if all you have by way of response is personal attacks, that says way
more about you than it does about me! ;) might think about that, as well as the
rest of it.

Setting that aside, what good is beta testing if the results are completely
discarded and/or ignored? There are bugs here that have not been fixed, that
you and your cohorts are essentially refusing to fix. That would be essentially
all of them. Fix them and you'll have something to say about beta testing. If
you won't fix them, a reason why would be a good start... ;)

You still haven't addressed freedom of choice... and, at this point, I'm
guessing you won't. If you do, please remember the differences between 'de
facto' and 'du jour' -- it is possible for freedom of choice to be officially
permitted but still not available in these circumstances, and that is exactly
what I'm worried about... and exactly what appears to be happening.

Again, if my choices are (a) Windows or (b) Linux with systemd, I'm choosing
(a).

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