[systemd-devel] systemd-fsck-root.service without initrd prints ugly message on clean fsck

[Reindl Harald]

Am 13.03.2013 18:45, schrieb Kay Sievers:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>> Am 13.03.2013 17:44, schrieb Kay Sievers:
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
>>> <auke-jan.h.kok at intel.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, Kay Sievers <kay at vrfy.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> so and what are you guys saying if i explain you that
>>>>>> i WANT THIS MESSAGES bedcause I WANT to SEE
>>>>>> /dev/sda2: clean, 435608/1310720 files
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, that you ask, I would say: I don't care. :)
>>>
>>>> This is one of those cases where more information isn't actually providing
>>>> you with useful data. We should print out errors and warnings, but if
>>>> everything is working as it should, then nobody should care, and it should
>>>> remain silent.
>>>>
>>>> If you do care, then the right solution is to implement some notification
>>>> mechanism that can be added or is optional, and disabled by default.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather spend my time figuring out how to get fsck issues all the way to
>>>> admin users instead... That seems much more useful.
>>>
>>> Right, as always, it is about sane defaults, and "clean" isn't any
>>> sane default to print, ever.
>>>
>>> If wanted, tools can support --verbose and print all their stuff, but
>>> there is no case to clutter the console with nonsense like "clean". We
>>> don't print "OK" for all other tools as well
>>
>> so all the green OK messages at boot are existing only in my brain
>> hint: disable rhgb and quiet
> 
> Yo confuse explicit, nicely and carefully layouted status output
> message, which can be configured and which behave, with random
> nonsense printed from *used* tools, which are not service entities,
> and nobody wants to hear from them when all is fine.
> 
> The analogy is that bash always prints OK, when it's back and all went
> well, not when a managed service starts

with the defaults "rhgb" and "quiet" you see nothing at all
so if someone is disable any graphical boot stuff he is
technical interested and if i see "issued filesystem check"
followed by a explicit "OK" with more or less additional output
i feel much better than with a blackbox which could mean
"maybe warnings but supressed due another error/mistake in systemd"

in short: most people which turn off the grapical boot are
interested in details

well if you can make a "systemcheck <VOLUME LABEL> OK" after the
progresswhich is still missing for the sysroot fine, but if
you can't / won't it is better to have the original output
from fsck than nothing

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