[systemd-devel] [PATCH] systemctl: print unit package in status

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Thu Dec 18 12:30:35 PST 2014

Am 18.12.2014 um 21:26 schrieb Spencer Baugh:
> Quoting Kay Sievers (2014-12-18 15:04:22)
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> <zbyszek at in.waw.pl> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 07:09:34PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/2014 06:44 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>>> On 12/18/2014 06:36 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>>>>> You missed the part where I said "you should make it opt-in".
>>>>> Should we not first determine the practicality of implementing
>>>>> this and if the system service manager should actually be looking
>>>>> up this info to begin with?
>>>>> We could not add the ability to define the upstream homepage in
>>>>> the status output but we can now clutter the status output with a
>>>>> name of a package?
>>>> This could be implemented without the overhead and conflict as an
>>>> extension to the output listed with "systemctl list-unit-files" if
>>>> opt-in
>>> That's a valid point. list-unit-files seems to be a better home
>>> for this.
>> The systemd command line tools are not supposed to call into
>> higher-level daemons to query data. This sounds like the wrong way
>> around. It sound like someone should teach packagekit about systemd
>> units.
>> Also, systmed does not want to get involved into any concept of
>> "packages". It is what distributions are made of, but this is not
>> systemd's task to manage of describe.
> systemctl does already directly invoke man to read man pages, despite
> that just being one way among many to maintain documentation

there is a difference between calling a local mandb and issue Packagekit 
which may refresh it's caches and so produce network load and 
unpredictable delays up to timeouts

systemd should be as tiny as possible with as less as possible 
dependencies and not became a OS at it's own on top of a OS

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